code logs -> 2015 -> Thu, 20 Aug 2015< code.20150819.log - code.20150821.log >
--- Log opened Thu Aug 20 00:00:48 2015
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00:18
< Reiv_>
what is pico de gallo
00:20
<~Vornicus>
"chunky salsa"
00:21
<~Vornicus>
Usually to the point where the ingredients are obvious and well-differentiated.
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02:15
<&McMartin>
Man, I'm sure I've giggled at this before
02:15
<&McMartin>
But I'm still giggling whenever I hit an infinite loop in this code and it's represented as "for (; ;)"
02:19
<&Derakon>
Why do people do that anyway?
02:20
<&McMartin>
Infinite loops or "for (; ;)" instead of "while (true)"?
02:27
<&Derakon>
The latter.
02:30
<&McMartin>
"true" isn't in C.
02:30
<&McMartin>
and "while (1)" is lame
02:33
<&Derakon>
What's wrong with "while (1)"?
02:33
<&Derakon>
Just not Cleverā¢ enough?
02:35
<&McMartin>
I'd consider "while (1)" more "clever(tm)" than "for (;;)"
02:35
<&McMartin>
for loop says all parts are optional
02:35
<&McMartin>
Clever(tm) is #define ever (;;)
02:38
<&Derakon>
Heh.
02:39
<~Vornicus>
That *is* clever
02:40
<&McMartin>
If you have an optimizing compiler you may get something out of the fact that the compiler can prove the loop never exits normally
02:40
<&McMartin>
It's technically easier to prove that for (; ;) never exits than that while (true) doesn't.
02:41
<&McMartin>
The former requires only parsing it; the latter requires constant propagation.
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10:30
< Haruki>
I dont really have any questions, i was just planning on idling in here and watching any conversations
10:30
< Haruki>
so... *pulls up a chair* :>
10:36
<@TheWatcher>
Welcome! Just a note though: it often doesn't really pick up in here until the US wakes up, so don't be surprised if it's quiet for a while yet.
10:40
<&McMartin>
Woo, success
10:41
<&McMartin>
https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/retro/lights_out.zip
10:41 * McMartin writes a DOS game in less than 1KB. :)
10:50
< Haruki>
Im actually scared to run whatver this is o_o
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10:51
< wowaname>
McMartin it sounds like the lights out game
10:52
< wowaname>
for (;_;) would be amusing
10:52
< Haruki>
It doesnt run on Win10 :C
10:52
< wowaname>
well yeah it's a dos gamre
10:53
< wowaname>
try dosbox or a 32bit windows
10:53
< wowaname>
#define an_infinite_loop 1
10:54
< Haruki>
i thought you might just be able to play it in cmd ^^; im kind of awful at coing related things
10:54
< wowaname>
while (an_infinite_loop) { /* */ }
10:55
< wowaname>
hm thats interesteing about loops though
10:55
< wowaname>
so for is better than while
11:09
<&McMartin>
wowaname: It is indeed exactly the lights out game
11:09
< wowaname>
:3
11:10
<&McMartin>
and yeah, dosbox. 64-bit windows won't run 16-bit exes :)
11:10
< wowaname>
i dont care much for lightsout
11:10
< wowaname>
then again i dont have patience for it
11:10
<&McMartin>
There's a method to it; I can now solve any 5x5 in about 15 seconds
11:11
<&McMartin>
Of course that means it's not fun anymore :/
11:11
< wowaname>
yeah i thought there would be a method
11:11
< wowaname>
it's either know the method and do it robotically, or not know it and get mad
11:11
< wowaname>
rubiks is still ok with the method
11:11
< wowaname>
theres more than one though
11:14
<&McMartin>
anyway yeah
11:14
<&McMartin>
The goal was not to set the game scene ablaze
11:14
<&McMartin>
Just to get the dos asm groove back
11:14
<&McMartin>
I'd say it's back
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11:30
< wowaname>
heh
11:30
< wowaname>
code for the gb/gbc now
11:37
<&McMartin>
I'm mostly C64, and I've done a bit of NES
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< wowaname>
oh
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12:54
< catadroid`>
seems legit
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13:50
<@TheWatcher>
On an entirely different subject
13:50 * TheWatcher stabstabstabs himself for not documenting this bloody code properly
13:51
<@TheWatcher>
Seriously, WTF was I thinking?!
13:51
<@Wizard>
Well, if the code wasn't bloody before, it certainly is now
13:51
< abudhabi>
Your past self is, unfortunately, beyond the reach of your stabbening.
13:51
< abudhabi>
And I suspect he knows it.
13:51
<@TheWatcher>
The bastard.
13:57
<@TheWatcher>
Also, why am I passing this argument around and never actually using it, ARGH
13:58
<@Tamber>
Just in case.
13:58
<@TheWatcher>
That may actually be the case, yes
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