code logs -> 2015 -> Wed, 12 Aug 2015< code.20150811.log - code.20150813.log >
--- Log opened Wed Aug 12 00:00:14 2015
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<&McMartin>
"(For those of you who are familiar with variance from other languages, what we refer to as "just" variance is in fact covariance. Rust does not have contravariance. Historically Rust did have some contravariance but it was scrapped due to poor interactions with other features. If you experience contravariance in Rust call your local compiler developer for medical advice.)"
01:10
<~Vornicus>
I have no idea what's going on there
01:11
<&McMartin>
co/contravariance was the thing that needed to be fixed in Java 1.5 to make containers work
01:11
<&McMartin>
Which is to say, if you have a collection of X, are you allowed to use subclasses of X, superclasses of X, or neither
01:11
<&McMartin>
And the answer turns out to be "this varies on a case by case basis"
01:12
<&McMartin>
subclasses is "covariant", superclasses is "contravariant", and neither is "invariant"
01:12
<~Vornicus>
oh that
01:13 * McMartin is reading through the Rustinomicon.
01:14 * Vornicus tries to remember places where contravariance makes sense
01:15
<&McMartin>
Filter
01:15
<&McMartin>
If I'm filtering a collection of Xs, my filter function may expect a superclass of X.
01:16
<&McMartin>
(while, say, add() is covariant)
01:22 * sshine redesigned his .emacs
01:22 * McMartin cues the tesla coils
01:23
< sshine>
now I can deploy it on a new system with emacs24 installed and it'll auto-install all my emacs packages the first time it runs.
01:23 * sshine ducks
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--- Log opened Wed Aug 12 02:42:18 2015
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05:42
< [R]>
<Nomikos> does this make any sense, or is this fahrenheit? http://mech.cx/var/tmp/temp.png <Nomikos (day later)> turns out, that screenshot with those high temps, those *were* Celsius.. crazy fried laptop, he actually got burns from it once
05:51 Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody
06:09
<@Reiv>
I have trouble believing that
06:09
<@Reiv>
'burns from it once' nothin', 90 degrees at the palm rest is 'this thing is nearly on fire'
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12:09 * abudhabi scratches head.
12:09
< abudhabi>
Is there a non-retarded way of testing cross-platform apps without having a Windows Phone and an iPhone?
12:10
< abudhabi>
I've found so far a functional Android emulator (run on Virtual Box) but would like stuff for the other two major platforms.
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--- Log opened Wed Aug 12 14:59:21 2015
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<@Wizard>
abudhabi: On whose behalf are you asking?
15:01
< abudhabi>
My own.
15:01
<@Wizard>
If you're asking for your comp - right
15:02
< abudhabi>
Well, in the sense that I'm developing this, as part of my job.
15:02
<@Wizard>
I would have suggested appcelerator but they start at $40/month
15:02
<@Wizard>
Yeah that's what I meant
15:03
<@Wizard>
Oh wait
15:03
<@Wizard>
Nevermind
15:03
< abudhabi>
I could just indicate that we need a development device to test shit on, but I'm not 100% certain yet there is need of it.
15:03
<@Wizard>
Yeah no don't go for those
15:03
<@Wizard>
abudhabi: I'd suggest trying to find a service that provides capability for automated testing
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17:21
<@froztbyte>
abudhabi: https://aws.amazon.com/device-farm/
17:28
< abudhabi>
Hey, that sounds pretty good!
17:29
< abudhabi>
Hmm. No winphone?
17:39
< [R]>
People have winphones?
17:40
< abudhabi>
My coworker does!
17:41
< [R]>
Can you confirm he's actually a person?
17:41
< abudhabi>
Yes.
17:43
<@TheWatcher>
hey, that makes two winphone owners I know!
17:43
<@TheWatcher>
well, know of
17:49
< catadroid`>
I have a friend who at least used to own one
18:10
<&jeroud>
I have a colleague who quite likes his winphone.
18:11
<&jeroud>
Runs a real OS on his laptop, though.
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18:22
<@Alek>
Redhat?
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22:13
<@gnolam>
NHhghgh
22:15
<@gnolam>
Ubuntu, the reason I'm asking you to store the VPN password is that I want you to /fucking store it/.
22:17
<@gnolam>
I don't want to have to dig up the fucking thing every time you have a derp.
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22:45
< [R]>
It's trying to be feature complete with Windows.
22:45 * [R] frequently has Windows forget a whole slew of settings.
22:50 * gnolam rolls his eyes.
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