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| 08:10 | < kourbou> | Hey! |
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| 10:43 | <&McMartin> | Success! |
| 10:43 | <&McMartin> | http://michaelcmartin.github.io/megaforge/ |
| 10:50 | <&McMartin> | (still no range checking) |
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| 12:24 | <@froztbyte> | nice |
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| 21:45 | <&jerith> | Hey, I vaugely recall there are people in here who know Scala. |
| 21:47 | <&jerith> | I've signed up for https://www.coursera.org/course/reactive and I should probably learn the basics of the language first. |
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| 22:19 | <&McMartin> | ... |
| 22:19 | <&McMartin> | Congratulations, JavaScript |
| 22:19 | <&McMartin> | You have just convinced me that I should use Systems Hungarian when naming my variables. |
| 22:20 | <@Tamber> | Mnagled something into something that Really Should Not Be? |
| 22:21 | <&McMartin> | So, I'm doing numeric work based on <input type="number"> elements |
| 22:22 | <&McMartin> | It's in the DOM, though, so everything I pull out of the DOM is strings, and everything I write into it should be strings. |
| 22:22 | <&McMartin> | But to actually *do work with them* I need numbers |
| 22:22 | <&McMartin> | So, nValue, nMin, nMax, etc. |
| 22:22 | <&McMartin> | (Which are parseInt'd at the top of the function) |
| 22:23 | <&McMartin> | (You could make a case that this is actually Apps Hungarian. In JS the line is admittedly a little fuzzy) |
| 22:23 | <@Tamber> | Because of all the drinking? |
| 22:23 | <&McMartin> | I've both seen and done worse in my day~ |
| 22:32 | <&McMartin> | This code overall has not been awful, though I'm also not being super-ambitious here. |
| 22:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | jerith: I have scala'd in the past, but my knowledge is three years outdated. |
| 22:44 | | * McMartin updates http://michaelcmartin.github.io/megaforge/ to make it more polite |
| 22:52 | <@Shiz> | ew, hungarian |
| 22:57 | <&McMartin> | I was uncomfortable with var max, global max, and this.max all being different types, what can I say~ |
| 22:58 | <&McMartin> | (This is actually the first even halfway significant program I've written in JS. I have no idea how good or bad what I'm doing is, stylistically.) |
| 23:02 | <@TheWatcher> | McMartin: for bare JS? You're doing nicely. |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I'm also aware that the pro way to use JS is to not actually use it directly |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | But that's also the pro way to use assembler and I like to know how the layer down is supposed to work, etc |
| 23:03 | <@TheWatcher> | I mean, shit, there's actual useful comments in there. That's fucking gold standard stuff >.> |
| 23:04 | <&McMartin> | I have Opinions about comments, and I have yet to find anyone that puts forth a doctrine on them I follow. I need to write a manifesto or something. |
| 23:04 | <@TheWatcher> | I would be interested to hear it, certainly. |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | Basically, public API at the top, and inside the program text, the focus should be on why, not what. |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | The stated reason for that is that "why" comments don't get outdated when people maintain the code, and if the code needs to be refactored to the point that they *would* drift, you can just nuke the whole comment block and move on. |
| 23:06 | <&McMartin> | "Public API at the top" is problematic in terms of tool integration, though, since it's contra Doxygen and, well, literally everyone |
| 23:07 | | * TheWatcher nod |
| 23:08 | <&McMartin> | But I like just having to fire up less in a terminal window >.> |
| 23:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Fair enough! |
| 23:10 | <@TheWatcher> | (Also, you can actually do that in doxygen. just needs a bit of effort and use of \fn) |
| 23:10 | <&McMartin> | Right |
| 23:10 | <&McMartin> | But in the end we're still talking toolchain |
| 23:10 | <&McMartin> | (Also I often work in Python, so it's Docstrings for API docs there) |
| 23:11 | <&McMartin> | But as a rule I think comments should be big-picture on implementation strategy when you're in a routine; my threshold for stuff functionally equivalent to "++i; // increment i" comments is definitely broader than the norm |
| 23:21 | | * McMartin eyes Fedora |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | /usr/local/lib doesn't appear to be part of the default library path. |
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