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| 02:35 | | * McMartin flails at apt |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | How exactly do I figure out what the virtual package is I'm *supposed* to install is for something |
| 02:36 | <&McMartin> | (The command that, for instance, would tell me about the existence of build-essentials) |
| 02:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | No idea! |
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| 03:03 | <&McMartin> | apparently build-essential itself *does* show up with apt-cache search but this implies that libqt5 actually has no master package and you have to install all 943 subpackages by hand |
| 03:04 | <&McMartin> | This seems implausible but I have a talent for consistently faceplanting on the shittiest parts of the debian and ubuntu repository corners |
| 03:05 | <@celticminstrel> | ...943 subpackages? |
| 03:07 | <&McMartin> | I bet you thought libqt5gui5 would let you write gui code, but no, you also need libqt5widgets5 which is independent and *at least one other thing* that is clearly missing because I'm getting warnings about it but I'm seeing no evidence of it in lsof on working vs nonworking systems |
| 03:07 | <&McMartin> | (I think it's more like 30 without hyperbole, but it looks like there are separate .deb files for every subdirectory of #include<Qt/_______> |
| 03:08 | <&McMartin> | There is also appmenu-qt5, which appears to be an entire platform engine and also the default (?!!!?) |
| 03:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think the assumption is that for the binaries, they get installed when you install a qt app, but I'd expect there to be a "qt5-devel" metapackage or something that installs all the headers and libraries |
| 03:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | But I can't say for sure because I don't use a debianoid except at work. |
| 03:09 | <&McMartin> | The closest I've found is qt5-default, which appears to actually be alternatives/whatever -_- |
| 03:10 | <&McMartin> | Of course, Unity is built on top of qt so on Ubuntu you get to just assume they are there and I have this sinking feeling they just neglected to explicitly list dependencies as a result >_< |
| 03:10 | <&ToxicFrog> | On SUSE you'd install the devel_qt5 pattern, which installs libtq5-qt{base,svg,x11extras,tools,declarative,xmlpatterns}-devel, which I suspect are themselves metapackages |
| 03:11 | <&McMartin> | that's pretty close to Fedora's, yeah |
| 03:16 | <&McMartin> | I take it back, Fedora's is a burning wasteland in the same way Ubuntu is |
| 03:16 | <&McMartin> | (qt-qtbase-devel, in fact, does not install qtwidgets~) |
| 03:17 | <&McMartin> | (Ohw ait, no, there it is) |
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| 06:00 | <@celticminstrel> | Boost.Spirit's documentation is so terrible that it might just be easier to write my own parser by hand... |
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| 06:06 | <@celticminstrel> | Maybe if I used Spirit.Classic... |
| 07:38 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah, that seems to be better. |
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| 07:52 | <&McMartin> | http://i.imgur.com/U5bwPcl.png |
| 08:37 | <@Alek> | uh? |
| 08:37 | <@Alek> | badly coded timer? :P |
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| 14:20 | <~Vornicus> | One of these days I'm going to stop worrying so much about database normalization and the kinds of anomalies I can think of, but apparently it is not this day |
| 14:27 | <~Vornicus> | case in point: player joins game, has city; city must come from the map that the game is being played on, and not some other map. |
| 14:28 | <~Vornicus> | I can't imagine the key layout you'd need to make this constraint. |
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| 14:41 | <~Vornicus> | Nor, I imagine, should I, really. |
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| 21:32 | <@Orthia> | <Reiv> Vornicus: That can be solved in a couple decent ways, poke me during the week |
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| 22:01 | < SmithKurosaki> | Hey guys. I'm having some issues with my android chrome session and googles app engine. I've already cleared cache, cookies and rebooted chrome and my phone. Its isolated only to a session on my phone - operates fine on laptop or even incognito on my phone |
| 22:03 | < SmithKurosaki> | When I try to access the app engine stuff for ingress, it tells me - Error: Server Error |
| 22:03 | < SmithKurosaki> | The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. |
| 22:03 | < SmithKurosaki> | Please try again in 30 seconds |
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| 22:56 | <~Vornicus> | Reiv: oh god |
| 22:57 | < SmithKurosaki> | Anyone here good with chrome/appengine issues? |
| 23:03 | <@Orthia> | <Reiv> Vornicus: oh god? You just asked a database normalisation question. I do this for a living. :P |
| 23:13 | <~Vornicus> | it's true~ |
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| 23:27 | <@Reivles> | Which bit is true, the 'oh god'? |
| 23:34 | <~Vornicus> | That you do this for a living |
| 23:35 | <~Vornicus> | But thing is I often look at this kind of problem and realize that, honestly, this sort of thing is often more thinking effort than it is reasonably worth |
| 23:42 | <@Reivles> | Ah yes |
| 23:43 | <@Reivles> | Yeah, that's probably the most critical bit of the 'doing it for a living' |
| 23:43 | <@Reivles> | You can worry about theoretical perfection... |
| 23:43 | <@Reivles> | ... or you can git er done |
| 23:49 | <~Vornicus> | But the thing is I realize this way too late... |
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