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| 00:00 | < jeroud> | I would be sad if I discovered that any C-level thing escaped. |
| 00:00 | <&McMartin> | Well, there will need to be some way to write back into the mutable structs, at least for now. |
| 00:00 | <&McMartin> | If that's a PITA I'll have to write mutator functions, I guess |
| 00:00 | < jeroud> | (Excluding primitive values and such.) |
| 00:01 | < jeroud> | I can wrap mutable structs in Python objects easily enough. |
| 00:01 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I'm thinking that'll be MonocleObject itself, and it'll also do some kind of dispatch on collisions. |
| 00:02 | <&McMartin> | So end users will be subclassing MonocleObject once for each kind in their program that has custom reaction code. |
| 00:02 | < simon> | does Java's classpath work recursively? e.g., if I include ~/foo, does ~/foo/bar/boo.jar get included? |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | No, but you can include ~/foo/bar/* and it'll hit all the jars in that directly. |
| 00:03 | < jeroud> | I don't know if subclass-per-kind is really the right model. |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | It wouldn't be mandatory, certainly. |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | But it ought to be *possible* |
| 00:04 | < jeroud> | Sure. |
| 00:04 | <&McMartin> | I'm imagining that MonocleObjects get extended with collideTraitName(self, other) methods and that pymonocle can find and call that appropriately as the processing of a collision. |
| 00:05 | <&McMartin> | (collideWall, collideHazard, etc) |
| 00:05 | | * simon just realized how awesome of a project Monocle sounds. |
| 00:05 | <&McMartin> | You don't have to get those in place with inheritance, but this is a place where it seems like the most sensible way to do so. |
| 00:06 | <&McMartin> | simon: A series of vaguely stable drafts are on github, if you haven't been following very closely: https://github.com/michaelcmartin/monocle |
| 00:06 | <&McMartin> | The docs are presently kind of all lies, though; I need to do a major pass over them once I have a model that actually works. |
| 00:06 | < jeroud> | I was just going to go with .collide() and let subclasses (or overridden instance methods) do fancier dispatch. |
| 00:07 | <&McMartin> | That works too. |
| 00:07 | <&McMartin> | Seems like a trick a demo should use, at least in a STEAL THIS CODE sense. |
| 00:09 | < jeroud> | If there turns out to be a nice way to tie that to the definitions of the collision traits it's a reasonable thing to put on a subclass or something. |
| 00:10 | < jeroud> | Or even in a default implementation that you're free to replace. |
| 00:11 | < jeroud> | This is the kind of thing I'd have to play with and have other people poke with sticks before settling on. |
| 00:12 | < jeroud> | (Preferably other people who haven't written several games with me.) |
| 00:16 | < jeroud> | Anyway, to return to your original question, a void* pointer on MNCL_OBJECT is potentially useful in pymonocle but much more likely to be useful in other languages. |
| 00:20 | < jeroud> | It is now two hours past my bedtime and I have work tomorrow. G'night. |
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| 01:34 | <~Vornicus> | planets know their own names; they can look at the planet view object indexed by their name and examine. Okay. view = {planets = {$each_planet = {planet_sprite_id = $blah, owner_sprite_id = $blah, etc etc}}} |
| 02:20 | <@celticminstrel> | Okay, so every one of my test programs works except recursive binomial coefficient. |
| 02:21 | <@celticminstrel> | The other recursive tests (fibonacci and gcd) do work. |
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| 04:05 | | * Vornicus laments his own bad habits |
| 04:05 | <~Vornicus> | I'm a programmer, Vash isn't; yet, her parentheses discipline is vastly stronger than mine. |
| 04:05 | < Syka> | i read that as 'bed habits' |
| 04:06 | < Syka> | that is probably me projecting, since I got no sleep last night |
| 04:06 | <~Vornicus> | For that there's only one thing I lament: I apparently roll around enough to undo the corner of the bedsheet nightly! |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | i sort of curl into my sheet |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | top sheet, thing |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | although it's not |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | it's like... a throw thing |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | it has little holes in it as part of the pattern |
| 04:07 | < Syka> | anything thicker is too hot :( |
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| 04:12 | <@Reiv> | Vornicus: What is your parenthesis discipline then |
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| --- Log closed Mon Dec 02 05:12:42 2013 |
| --- Log opened Mon Dec 02 05:29:50 2013 |
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| 07:36 | <&jerith> | There are days when I find myself facing the hermitage on the cliff, with deadlines that preclude tearing it down. :-/ |
| 07:47 | <@froztbyte> | the solution is obvious |
| 07:47 | <@froztbyte> | get Road Runner in |
| 07:47 | <@froztbyte> | that way Wile. E. Coyote will attempt something silly, like blowing off a chunk of the cliff |
| 07:48 | <@froztbyte> | thus conveniently taking the hermitage with it |
| 07:48 | < jeroud> | The hermitage is but a metaphor. |
| 07:52 | < jeroud> | I have constructed several new rooms already, perched upon a large and stable rocky outcrop. |
| 07:53 | <~Vornicus> | what's all this? |
| 07:54 | < jeroud> | Vornicus: thecodelesscode.com |
| 07:58 | < jeroud> | Specifically the case named "Fear". |
| 08:04 | <~Vornicus> | ah, that one |
| 08:04 | <~Vornicus> | Yes indeed. |
| 08:05 | <~Vornicus> | My hermitage has several other hermitages next to it. |
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| 08:15 | <@froztbyte> | hermivillage! |
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| 10:20 | <&McMartin> | Aha, it's been released. http://nickm.com/post/2013/11/nanowatt/ |
| 10:51 | <@Alek> | watt.gif |
| 11:29 | <@froztbyte> | Montreal? |
| 11:29 | <@froztbyte> | wut |
| 11:30 | <@froztbyte> | also \o/ |
| 11:30 | <@froztbyte> | McMartin: pouet link? ;D |
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| 11:52 | <@TheWatcher> | Why, why can I never remember the order of margin: and padding: arguments? it's just NESW, but why do I always need to check that >.< |
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| 13:11 | <@gnolam> | http://i.imgur.com/Pai6w2U.jpg |
| 13:26 | < Syka> | TheWatcher: don't use NESW, it's Bad |
| 13:27 | < Syka> | TheWatcher: use something like SASS that lets you do "padding: \n left: 10px \n right: 10px" etc |
| 13:31 | <@TheWatcher> | Yes, because what I really want to do is arse around with Ruby. |
| 13:32 | <@TheWatcher> | I have ruby on exactly a single machine, and that only because I need to run gitlab |
| 13:33 | < Syka> | LESS, then |
| 13:33 | < Syka> | or https://github.com/Kronuz/pyScss |
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| 16:11 | <@Azash> | I can't wrap my head around it, but isn't there an algorithmic way to merge two subarrays in mergesort without using a second array? |
| 16:12 | <@Azash> | I think I have an idea that can do it with just temp storage for one array node |
| 16:14 | <@froztbyte> | you could extend the first array? |
| 16:14 | <@froztbyte> | but it seems like a prime way to make mistakes |
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| 20:55 | | * Tarinaky pokes the room... |
| 20:56 | | * Azash is summoned from his coffin |
| 20:57 | <@Tarinaky> | I'm having extreme difficulty writing this assignment. I'm supposed to have 4 pages and I can't even do 1 :/ |
| 20:58 | <@Tarinaky> | I'm having a great amount of difficulty saying anything that isn't very superficial |
| 20:58 | <@Tarinaky> | And my morale is poor. |
| 20:58 | <@Tarinaky> | -.- |
| 20:58 | <@Tarinaky> | I've got just under 2 days no less :/ |
| 20:59 | <@Tarinaky> | I'd ask for advice on what kind of self-inflicted injury would get me out of handing this assignment in but then I'd still have the exam to contend with. |
| 21:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | What assignment is it? |
| 21:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Computer Vision. |
| 21:08 | <@Tarinaky> | Umm, let me reupload stuff. |
| 21:08 | <@Tarinaky> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mvqd8p6e5s5sm8/scenario.pdf https://www.dropbox.com/s/84s3jdsls7b37zw/assignment%282%29.pdf https://www.dropbox.com/s/wk2jvesfgqn9e3l/SSS08.pdf |
| 21:10 | <@Tarinaky> | So far I'm thinking the only way out of this is to go in tomorrow try to find someone and play the 'I'm waiting for a referral for a psych and having a breakdown' card. |
| 21:10 | <@Tarinaky> | Hurray for dignity (and lack thereof) :/ |
| 21:13 | <@Tarinaky> | But even if they buy it the only thing it can buy me is a full resit. :/ |
| 21:14 | <@Tarinaky> | -.- |
| 21:15 | <@Tarinaky> | Fuck my life -.- |
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| 21:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. So it's a literature survey sort of thing? |
| 21:28 | <@Tarinaky> | I don't know. They explicitly said it wasn't a literature review. |
| 21:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 21:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | ...oh, I see. I think. Given this problem domain, you are expected to write about (but not implement) various ways of solving it? |
| 21:29 | <@Tarinaky> | Or just this one I think... |
| 21:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Assignment 2 looks pretty straughtforward, though. |
| 21:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which of these is the one you're actually talking about? |
| 21:30 | <@Tarinaky> | They're all one assignment. |
| 21:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Um |
| 21:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | assignment(2).pdf is quite clearly an assignment to read a single paper, summarize it, and critique its proposed solution(s) |
| 21:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | scenario.pdf is something different and much larger and sounds like it's meant to be done after assignment(2) |
| 21:32 | <@Tarinaky> | Scenario covers both this and the exam. |
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| 22:26 | <&McMartin> | Oof. QXmlQuery doesn't work on XML files of any size |
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