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| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | Ladies! Gentlemen! |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | Dare I attempt the feat of BATHTUB DEBUGGING? |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | It would involve printouts. |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | More like a code audit since there's at present no evidence that this damn thing is a regression |
| 06:03 | <&McMartin> | Frankly I'd have rather stuck with the Drastic Measures~ |
| 06:13 | < [R]> | "I have owned a hammer for years but that doesn't mean I can build a house. I would give it a go but I am not stupid enough to think it would be pleasant to look at or up to code." |
| 06:24 | | * Alek slowclaps. |
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| 06:38 | <~Vornicus> | I haven't printed out code in years |
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| 11:45 | | * McMartin is up at 4 AM, drinking tea and auditing 2-year-old kernel code. |
| 11:45 | | * McMartin makes bad decisions. |
| 11:47 | < RichyB> | Your main problem here is that you should stop drinking tea past 2AM and graduate to Club Mate. |
| 11:48 | <&McMartin> | Mate is disgusting |
| 11:50 | <@TheWatcher> | ^-- |
| 11:50 | <@TheWatcher> | (why're you auditing kernel code, anyway?) |
| 11:51 | <&McMartin> | There is some evidence that an old device driver we wrote 2 years ago is leaking handles, and this is suddenly relevant on a short timespan. |
| 11:52 | <&McMartin> | So I started doing greps on function call name patterns and things have gotten out of hand~ |
| 11:52 | <@TheWatcher> | eech |
| 11:52 | <@TheWatcher> | Good luck >.< |
| 11:58 | <&McMartin> | The occasional need for this kind of madness is a major reason I'm kept on the payroll, so, eh |
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| 12:33 | <&McMartin> | This code is simultaneously completely insane and incredibly easy to analyze, and I'm not sure if these things are related >_< |
| 12:35 | | * Alek boggles. |
| 12:35 | <@Alek> | <<< IF 1 = 2. MESSAGE i903(aj) WITH space space. ENDIF. |
| 12:45 | <&McMartin> | return 18/0 |
| 12:57 | <&McMartin> | OK, that's all I can work out now. Didn't find it, but have pretty high confidence in large chunks of it now. |
| 12:57 | <&McMartin> | RAINI, but RAII designs do make a lot of things a lot easier to reason about. |
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| 15:26 | < Syka> | Karono is being an excellent demonstrator why I don't use optus |
| 15:26 | < ErikMesoy> | ha |
| 15:26 | < Karono> | x__x |
| 15:27 | < Karono> | It's not normally this bad, but my wireless router really hates me tonight for some reason. |
| 15:27 | < Syka> | you could say |
| 15:27 | | * Syka sunglasses |
| 15:27 | < Syka> | it's routed |
| 15:28 | < Karono> | But... that joke hardly even makes sense! |
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| 15:31 | < Syka> | Karono: well |
| 15:31 | < Syka> | Karono: if you're a pom living in Australia, then "it's rooted" might work better |
| 15:32 | | * Syka 's MCITP tutor was British and prounounced 'route' as 'root', which is /hilarious/ to an Australian |
| 15:32 | < Karono> | I figured that was the joke, but I've never heard anyone pronounce "routed" like "rooted". |
| 15:32 | < Syka> | "So, you have this rooter here" |
| 15:32 | < Karono> | Ahhh. Yes. |
| 15:32 | < Syka> | class snickers |
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| 15:35 | < Karono> | It was a bit contrived, or something. Anyway. Yes. Wireless internet sucks. |
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| 16:09 | <@Pandemic> | any vbscript gurus around? |
| 16:10 | <@Tamber> | I'm sure you can dig one up somewhere. |
| 16:10 | <@Pandemic> | trying to chop an array into two arrasy based on charicter count |
| 16:10 | <@Pandemic> | split() is not suited to this |
| 16:10 | <@Pandemic> | any ieads? |
| 16:10 | <@Pandemic> | would be easier in C++... |
| 16:10 | <@Pandemic> | can't use C++.... |
| 16:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | When a string/array processing task would be easier in C++, you know you are deep in the shit./ |
| 16:18 | <@Pandemic> | :-P |
| 16:18 | <@Pandemic> | thanks TF |
| 16:18 | <@Pandemic> | well |
| 16:18 | <@Pandemic> | let me refrase |
| 16:18 | < RichyB> | It's VB. Don't you have substr() to hand? |
| 16:19 | <@Pandemic> | I'm be most confortale with what he was trying to do in C++ |
| 16:19 | <@Pandemic> | let me look that up RichyB |
| 16:19 | < RichyB> | oh, it might even be called mid$ |
| 16:20 | | * TheWatcher eyes some people, wonders WTF they have against .7z |
| 16:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | (also, what's the actual problem? You have an array of strings you want to group into two arrays based on string length? You have a character array/string you want to split at a defined index?) |
| 16:21 | <@Pandemic> | What he is trying to do, is travers a charicter array |
| 16:21 | <@Pandemic> | split words into seperate arrays |
| 16:21 | <@Pandemic> | but if the carichter count goes over 50 dump each work of charicters into a seperate group of arrays |
| 16:22 | <@Pandemic> | so, split, keep count and split into second group if over 50 |
| 16:22 | <@Pandemic> | http://www.w3schools.com/vbscript/vbscript_ref_functions.asp string section is wher eI pointed him |
| 16:22 | <@Pandemic> | and I know how to do what he wants in c++ |
| 16:23 | <@Pandemic> | and TF the first one |
| 16:33 | <@Pandemic> | in c++ I'd use a while loop, with the check condition being end of the array, then have in statements inside of the loop and have an i veriable to keep track of what index I was at in the array traversal and incrimet it at the end of eah loop |
| 16:33 | <@Pandemic> | I'm assume something similer might be possible in vb and or vb script |
| 16:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | the first one isn't what you actually just described, so now I'm even more confused |
| 16:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | But since I don't actually know VB I probably won't be much help anyways |
| 16:34 | <@Pandemic> | even as a windows sys admin I try to avoid VBscript as much as possible |
| 16:35 | <@Pandemic> | preferring powershell or batch files and cmd command modification as much as I can |
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| 17:57 | < jeff2> | Hi guys |
| 17:57 | < jeff2> | Maybe you could shed some light on a probleom I've been having |
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| 17:59 | < ErikMesoy> | This is quite possible. |
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| 18:00 | | * gnolam points at the topic. |
| 18:00 | <@gnolam> | "Don't ask to ask, just ask" :) |
| 18:00 | < jeff2> | I sent an application to a client a few times now, and every iteration it's run fine and installed fine, but her resolution was shit so I redid the form. Completley unsure of what else could have changed, I don't remember chaning anything but now after the install completes and she tries to run the program it says "Cannot continue. The application is improperly formatted." |
| 18:00 | < jeff2> | here's a few errors from the report it generated |
| 18:00 | < jeff2> | the manifest may not be valid or the file could not be opened |
| 18:00 | < jeff2> | Deployment manifest is not semantically valid. |
| 18:00 | < jeff2> | + Deployment manifest identity contains missing or unsupported processor |
| 18:01 | < ErikMesoy> | Do you have some sort of version tracking system or changelog to see what has changed since the last working version? |
| 18:02 | < jeff2> | To calrify, what could have changed? I haven't changed the destination platorm or config, I fixed a strong name error and that was it. |
| 18:02 | < jeff2> | ErikMesoy: Sadly no |
| 18:02 | < ErikMesoy> | Do you have a copy of the last working version? |
| 18:03 | < jeff2> | I do, I couldn't find a single change |
| 18:04 | < jeff2> | Either I'm not looking hard eneugh or something was corrupted. I tried republishing the .net project after deleting the publish folder and the new build had the same probleom |
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| 18:43 | < simon_> | jeff2, maybe the program relies on a state on the destination computer that was altered. |
| 18:44 | | * simon_ is looking at Project Euler 82 and 83 and thinks: shortest path, rather than dynamic programming. |
| 18:44 | < simon_> | that's what I'm going to do, but I'm curious if someone has solved them differently. |
| 18:45 | < simon_> | (quick-link for the curious: http://projecteuler.net/problem=82 ) |
| 18:47 | < jeff2> | We can't find anything that's been changed, we're now looking into how she installed it exactly |
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| 19:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | jeff: no version control? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 19:02 | < jeff> | There was, but it got screwed up, long story |
| 19:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 19:09 | <@gnolam> | simon_: seems like something you could throw A* at, yes. |
| 19:14 | < Syka> | a rare glimpse at the engineering of ToxicFrog http://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20120227-robotthatscreams.png |
| 19:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | jeff: the diff between manifests in this version and the last working one is empty? |
| 19:34 | < jeff> | I think so yeah |
| 19:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Have you checked? |
| 19:38 | < jeff> | Yup, not with a diff command but line by line |
| 19:38 | < jeff> | I might have the solution but I'm not sure, if I actually found it I'll tell you. |
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| 20:01 | < simon_> | gnolam, I haven't actually looked at A* yet, but I intend to before the ICFP contest starts. |
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