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| 02:13 | | * ToxicFrog makes git blame completely useless by making a commit that touches almost every line in every file \o/ |
| 02:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Heh. |
| 02:15 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm pretty sure you can say "blame for commits before X", though. |
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| 02:26 | <@Tarinaky> | Doesn't git run on insertions and deletions though? If you touch a line it's replaced with a different line - not modified. |
| 02:29 | < [R]> | Why would that matter? |
| 02:29 | < [R]> | celticminstrel: also yes. |
| 02:31 | <@Tarinaky> | [R]: If you're looking for the blame on a particular line... that line 'before' is a different line. |
| 02:31 | <@Tarinaky> | Maybe. |
| 02:31 | <@Tarinaky> | I don't use git blame much because I already know the answer: "You, you idiot" |
| 02:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: well, yes |
| 02:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Also I'm the only committer to this project |
| 02:35 | < [R]> | git blame will also identify the commit. |
| 02:35 | < [R]> | I've used it on repos where only I worked on it. |
| 02:36 | < [R]> | To find out which feature required that file change. |
| 02:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hmm. What should I work on next? |
| 02:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | Better internal error handling, luajit support, or backreferences? |
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| 02:52 | <~Vornicus> | What did you do to all those lines? |
| 02:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: indentation rationalization. |
| 02:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | The entire project is now spaces at 2col, rather than a mix of spaces at 2, spaces at 4, spaces+tabs at 3, and tabs at 4. |
| 03:06 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah, identifying the commit is the only reason I ever use blame, though I don't actually know how to use it from the command-line... |
| 03:07 | <@celticminstrel> | I periodically do similar things. |
| 03:10 | <@celticminstrel> | A commit dedicated to fixing code formatting. |
| 03:10 | <@celticminstrel> | In the case of JavaScript, this might involve adding semicolons. |
| 03:20 | <@Reiv> | I still want an IDE that will cleanly let me treat spaces as if they were tabs. |
| 03:20 | <@Reiv> | By which I mean "Pressing tab will give me X spaces; pressing backspace on said pile of spaces will /delete/ X spaces" |
| 03:20 | <@Reiv> | Else you can tab out OK, but jumping back a level of scope remains as messy as always, which, y'know, sorta defeats the point |
| 03:21 | <@Reiv> | (Better yet would have been for dynamic tabs to become the standard, but too late for that now, I guess) |
| 03:21 | <@celticminstrel> | I thought Eclipse did that. Maybe not, I dunno. |
| 03:22 | <@celticminstrel> | What do you mean by dynamic tabs? |
| 03:22 | < [R]> | Elastic Tabs probably |
| 03:24 | <@Reiv> | Elastic tabs, thems the bunny |
| 03:24 | <@Reiv> | http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ |
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| 03:28 | <@Reiv> | But, as noted, spaces-instead-of-tabs are dominant. |
| 03:28 | <@Reiv> | Which is a shame, because they're also horrid. :p |
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| 04:19 | < ToxicFrog_> | Reiv: isn't this Every IDE Ever? I'm pretty sure Cloud9, IDEA, and Sublime Text all do this |
| 04:19 | < ToxicFrog_> | Also, typically, you use shift-tab for exdenting anyways, not backspace |
| 04:20 | < ToxicFrog_> | Reiv: isn't this Every IDE Ever? I'm pretty sure Cloud9, IDEA, and Sublime Text all do this |
| 04:20 | < ToxicFrog_> | Also, typically, you use shift-tab for exdenting anyways, not backspace |
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| 04:27 | <@Reiv> | What, elastic tabs? |
| 04:27 | <@Reiv> | Oh, you mean the spaces-munching |
| 04:27 | <@Reiv> | I seem to consistently break it, then. |
| 04:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | With ST2, set translateTabsToSpaces and useTabStops to true. |
| 04:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think in cloud9 it's on by default. |
| 04:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | That said, even in editors where it's not, I haven't noticed because I use shift-tab instead |
| 04:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which has the advantage of working even if your cursor is in the middle of the line |
| 04:31 | <@Reiv> | I guess I should get better at that. |
| 04:31 | <@Reiv> | Doesn't help me with SQL Developer, though. ?? |
| 04:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | SQL Developer? |
| 04:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh hey, there's an implementation of elastic tabs for ST2 |
| 04:47 | <@Reiv> | ToxicFrog: The Oracle SQL editor. |
| 04:47 | <@Reiv> | It is... functional. |
| 04:47 | <&ToxicFrog> | Can you not edit it in a real editor and then paste into it? |
| 04:47 | <@Reiv> | Technically, yes. |
| 04:47 | <@Reiv> | Reality, eeeeeeeeh |
| 04:48 | <@Reiv> | 1) SQL editors main benefits are that they can sanity-check your column names etc as you write via the database connections. It may be something of a challenge to get another editor to do the same. |
| 04:48 | <@Reiv> | 2) It would require requesting the software installed. Ahahahahahaha. siiigh. |
| 04:49 | <@Reiv> | I can't even keep my Flash and Java up to date. |
| 04:49 | <@Reiv> | (Thank goodness that Chrome has a builtin flash thingy.) |
| 05:00 | < [R]> | if (o instanceof User) { |
| 05:00 | < [R]> | User other = (User) o; |
| 05:00 | < [R]> | lolwat |
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| 05:01 | < [R]> | return other.nick.toLowerCase().compareTo(this.nick.toLowerCase()); // this is the next line BTW |
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| 06:54 | <@Azash> | [R]: About that instanceof user thing |
| 06:54 | <@Azash> | Java is pretty anal about recasting Objects |
| 06:55 | <@Azash> | Most of the time you need to be in a situation where it is certain that something supports the cast in question, iirc |
| 06:58 | < [R]> | I figgured |
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| 06:58 | < [R]> | I just dropped the User other = (User) o; line and made the return start with ((User)o) |
| 07:02 | < [R]> | Because I don't like having a single-use variable unless it significantly shortens a line. |
| 07:18 | <@Tarinaky> | I don't mind single-use variables as long as they're tightly scoped. |
| 07:19 | <@Tarinaky> | They can increase readability beyond just shortening the line. |
| 07:31 | < [R]> | That one didn't do much IMO |
| 07:32 | <@Azash> | The only thing I really used single-use variables for so far is switching children in AVL balances and such |
| 07:32 | <@Tarinaky> | It's good for self-documenting code. |
| 07:32 | <@Azash> | Of course, in Real Languages you just switch the pointers with XOR.. :P |
| 07:32 | <@Tarinaky> | There's no point doing it if you're just going to call the variable a or x or something. |
| 07:32 | <@Tarinaky> | But if you can give it a meaningful name.. |
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| 15:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh man, vstruct doesn't cope well at all with input tables that aren't isomorphic to the format string |
| 15:54 | < [R]> | For some reason I'm tempted to add support to mIRC-compatable scripting to this IRC lib... |
| 15:54 | < [R]> | I wonder why no-one has done it, since it seems pretty obvious. |
| 16:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | Because the mIRC scripting language is an affront to both god and man |
| 16:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | And I'm not sure it even has a formal spec anywhere |
| 16:02 | < Syka> | and several animals too |
| 16:10 | < [R]> | Such as? |
| 16:11 | < ErikMesoy> | Elephants. |
| 16:11 | < Syka> | they never forget |
| 16:11 | < Syka> | but they wish they could |
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| 16:23 | <@celticminstrel> | What IRC lib? |
| 16:23 | < [R]> | A very gutted pircbot |
| 16:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | [R]: if you do add it, implement it as a library that other projects can use |
| 16:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | But I suspect the README will look like an excerpt from the Necronomicon~ |
| 16:27 | < [R]> | Well yeah |
| 16:27 | < [R]> | That's the entire point of adding it to the lib. |
| 16:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | I mean a library other projects can use to embed a mIRCscript interpreter (e.g. into other IRC libraries or clients) |
| 16:28 | < [R]> | Oh |
| 16:28 | < [R]> | That'll be a massive PITA. |
| 16:29 | < [R]> | Hmm |
| 16:29 | < [R]> | Actually, might be possible. |
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