| --- Log opened Fri Mar 29 00:00:28 2013 |
| 00:06 | <@[R]> | XML is like violence, if you still have a problem, you aren't using enough of it. |
| 00:08 | <@Azash> | [R]: We should make an RPG based on XML |
| 00:08 | <@Azash> | We could call it XSLTed |
| 00:10 | <&McMartin> | [you dieIn:[NSFire sharedFire]] |
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| 00:43 | <@Alek> | least effective sort algorithm: while list.not_sorted; randomize(list) |
| 00:57 | < RichyB> | The "now you have two problems" quote is originally jwz, but be honest about the context; it's about trying to use regexps to parse input that doesn't conform to a regular grammar. |
| 00:57 | < RichyB> | It's not like using regexps inside a parser's tokeniser increases the magnitude of your problems, for instance. |
| 01:17 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | And non-regular input almost always means HTML or XML >.< |
| 01:18 | | ToxicFrog|W`rkn is now known as ToxicFrog |
| 01:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | I had one problem, but then I decided I should use XML, and now I have an arbitrarily deeply nested <problem> and some idiot is posting on stackoverflow about parsing it with regexes. |
| 01:23 | < RichyB> | I had a text-processing problem. It's solved now, but my shears have blunted and I'm stuck knee-deep in yacc(1) hair. |
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| 02:35 | | * McMartin is actually lexing many tens of thousands of lines of C++ code to extract bits of it and check those against a 2000-line XML spec. |
| 02:35 | <&McMartin> | Tomorrow, I will be refactoring that code based on the results of this, also largely with Python scripts. |
| 02:36 | <&McMartin> | This is going to be AWESOME in the "watch our entire toolchain explode" sort of way. |
| 02:42 | <~Vornicus> | Hooray |
| 02:46 | <&McMartin> | 1 day of writing and using analysis tools, 0.5 days of writing and using transformation tools, 0.5-6 days of doing battle with three build processes. -_- |
| 02:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Bonus points if this culminates in a checkin that touches four digits of files~ |
| 02:54 | <&McMartin> | Heh. |
| 02:54 | <&McMartin> | The analyzer implies that I'm only going to be touching about 150-175. |
| 02:54 | <&McMartin> | (This is a reorganization of how user-facing strings are stored inside the application, with an eye to eventually *not* storing them inside the application.) |
| 02:58 | | Kindamoody|autojoin is now known as Kindamoody |
| 02:59 | <&McMartin> | But yeah, there are various horrible incompatibilities between the local dev machines and the machines that are responsible for actually making shippable bits, which renders this a bit of an Adventure until we finish our infrastructure upgrades. |
| 02:59 | | * Derakon blarghs at Wine, which is refusing to install cleanly on his computer. |
| 02:59 | <&Derakon> | Friggin' homebrew is supposed to resolve dependencies for me, but it keeps screwing up instead. |
| 02:59 | <&Derakon> | E.g. wine complains that 32-bit freetype isn't installed; "brew install freetype" apparently only does the 64-bit version? |
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| 03:17 | <&Derakon> | Wine installed, try to run the program I've been trying to get working, it says "Install Mono 2.8 or later". I have 2.10. |
| 03:17 | <&Derakon> | Stupid software. |
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| 03:18 | | * McMartin sings, "o/~ Someone did lexicographical ordering instead of version ordering o/~" |
| 03:19 | <&Derakon> | Well, to be fair it is preceded by messages like "fixme:mscoree:parse_supported_runtime sku=L".NETFramework,Version=v4.0" not implemented" |
| 03:19 | <&McMartin> | Bzuh |
| 03:20 | | * Derakon googles that error message, is told that it's caused by trying to run the program with wine instead of mono, uses mono, gets the error "The entry point method could not be loaded." |
| 03:20 | <&McMartin> | ... run Windows Mono In Wine? |
| 03:21 | <&McMartin> | I assume this particular assembly you're loading P/Invokes a Windows DLL. |
| 03:21 | <&Derakon> | Uh, is there even a Windows Mono? |
| 03:21 | <&McMartin> | v. |
| 03:21 | <&Derakon> | Wouldn't they just use the actual .NET framework? |
| 03:21 | <&McMartin> | Licensing issues, Is Novell, wants to use Mono-specific versions of .NET callouts on all platforms. |
| 03:21 | <&McMartin> | Is cross-developing for iOS or Android |
| 03:22 | <&McMartin> | http://www.mono-project.com/Using_Mono_on_Windows |
| 03:22 | <&Derakon> | Honestly at this point I don't give a shit any more. |
| 03:22 | <&Derakon> | It's too much pain; I can't be fucked. |
| 03:22 | <&Derakon> | (I'm just trying to use the Borderlands 2 save editor to change my character class) |
| 03:23 | <&Derakon> | (I'd try to hex it myself but I cannot find documentation of the file format, just people talking about existing editors) |
| 03:24 | <&Derakon> | (And assuming that they used checksums etc. I probably CBF about that either) |
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| 03:52 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm. The question of whether to put my IRC-bot on github now, or later... |
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| 16:15 | < SmithKurosaki> | Anyone alive in here? |
| 16:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Nope. |
| 16:15 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh wait. |
| 16:15 | <@celticminstrel> | I am. |
| 16:15 | <@celticminstrel> | :O |
| 16:16 | < SmithKurosaki> | Heh |
| 16:16 | | * celticminstrel is getting an urge to implement a regular expression engine. :| |
| 16:16 | < SmithKurosaki> | Anyone still doing that torrent thing? |
| 16:16 | <@celticminstrel> | Torrent thing? |
| 16:18 | < SmithKurosaki> | Torrenting things |
| 16:18 | < SmithKurosaki> | I know some people still do |
| 16:18 | < SmithKurosaki> | The site I used to use is full of dead torrents, and I don't know how else to get the things I want |
| 16:19 | < SmithKurosaki> | Mostly due to age and obscurity |
| 16:19 | <@celticminstrel> | Oh. |
| 16:19 | | * celticminstrel is torrenting something right now... |
| 16:20 | < SmithKurosaki> | What site you use? |
| 16:20 | <@celticminstrel> | I generally google what I want... |
| 16:20 | < SmithKurosaki> | I'm trying to find some 90s eurotrash/dance |
| 16:25 | < SmithKurosaki> | Even though I have history off, I am still hesitant to search the word torrent |
| 16:25 | < SmithKurosaki> | As such, not currently finding anything |
| 16:28 | <@celticminstrel> | I can understand that. |
| 16:29 | <@celticminstrel> | What about searching the word download? |
| 16:29 | < SmithKurosaki> | I'm trying to find a torrent for Love Inc music and Basshunter, unless I can get my friend to resend it to me |
| 16:29 | < SmithKurosaki> | Still squicky |
| 16:29 | < SmithKurosaki> | Less squicky though |
| 16:29 | <@celticminstrel> | Okay. |
| 16:29 | <@celticminstrel> | What about using a different search engine? :P |
| 16:29 | < SmithKurosaki> | Maybe? |
| 16:29 | <@celticminstrel> | I dunno, is your issue with google? |
| 16:30 | < SmithKurosaki> | It's with the not wanting to get in shit for 'illegal downloading' |
| 16:31 | <@celticminstrel> | Right. |
| 16:31 | <@celticminstrel> | And google might remember what you searched for. |
| 16:31 | < SmithKurosaki> | Which is why I prefer having a site to search off |
| 16:32 | < SmithKurosaki> | I have that turned off, but I just don't want ot risk it elsewhere eiyther |
| 16:46 | <@celticminstrel> | Yeah. |
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| --- Log closed Sat Mar 30 00:00:42 2013 |