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| 03:02 | | * Thalass ponders |
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| 03:28 | < Thalass> | I wonder if there are FOSS equivalents to the all the google services that could be run on a home server. |
| 03:29 | < Thalass> | I know there are off line speech recognition programs, and a home email server isn't too hard. I guess OSM has decent navigation capability. |
| 03:29 | <@[R]> | Search would be hard. |
| 03:31 | < Thalass> | (what i mean is: I wonder if you could set up your own mini google using FOSS, and your own PC as the hard work for the things that Duckduckgo, and OSM don't provide. |
| 03:35 | < Syk> | define 'dont provide' |
| 03:35 | < Syk> | since ddg seem pretty good as far as widgets go |
| 03:36 | < Syk> | OSM is missing huge amounts of my town |
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| 03:39 | < Thalass> | You can add them yourself, Syk. :D |
| 03:39 | < Thalass> | I've added a few new areas around my house. |
| 03:42 | < Syk> | I mean |
| 03:43 | < Syk> | huge swathes |
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| 04:06 | < Thalass> | Pack some sammiches? :P |
| 04:09 | < Syk> | X3 |
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| 13:19 | <@froztbyte> | http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/security/advisories/NetBSD-SA2013-003.txt.asc |
| 13:21 | < Barrell_R> | Ho fuck. |
| 13:22 | < Syk> | netbsd: the most secure OS evar |
| 13:26 | < Barrell_R> | Eh |
| 13:26 | < Barrell_R> | It's OpenBSD that claims to strive to be the most secure OS ever. |
| 13:27 | < Barrell_R> | NetBSD claims instead of strive to be the most portable OS ever. ? |
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| 13:28 | < RichyB> | That's quite a bug for "Due to a misplaced parenthesis". |
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| 14:46 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | 700k of log per transaction |
| 14:47 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | LOG ALL OF THE THINGS |
| 14:50 | < AnnoDomini> | Does it dump the whole database upon transaction or something? |
| 14:51 | <@froztbyte> | no, I think that's log message size |
| 14:51 | <@froztbyte> | which I could believe in certain places |
| 14:52 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Yes. That's how much debugging output is generated when you make a single request to the test server. |
| 14:52 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | And it enabled me to find the bug, so |
| 14:52 | <@froztbyte> | the data coherency on that must be awesome |
| 14:52 | <@froztbyte> | I'm a bit envious |
| 14:53 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Data coherency in what sense? |
| 14:54 | <@froztbyte> | mmm |
| 14:55 | <@froztbyte> | well, I guess this is a good example |
| 14:55 | <@froztbyte> | we have this (badly-designed) system that does text-based notifications (on cellphone) when outages happen |
| 14:56 | <@froztbyte> | the monitoring platform calls a URL on some system that drops files to a dir; this system then has a cron-esque daemon on it (which handles escalation patterns) which checks for any of these files |
| 14:56 | <@froztbyte> | these are then treated as job entries, and that thing fires off an action when the conditions are met |
| 14:56 | <@froztbyte> | all of these things are disconnected and separate |
| 14:57 | <@froztbyte> | so debugging any of it is "poke here, there, everywhere!" |
| 14:57 | <@froztbyte> | data coherency in this sense would be if I could have a more "uniform" view on what's happening |
| 14:57 | <@froztbyte> | I might still, too; busy reworking that thing to not suck so much |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Aah. |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | TBH it's not as uniform as I might like; my current project, in fact, is fixing that. |
| 15:00 | <@froztbyte> | haha |
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| 18:06 | | * Derakon sads at some code he wrote a couple of years ago. |
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| 18:06 | <&Derakon> | It's doing layout and sizing of some custom widgets in OpenGL, and every single positioner is hardcoded so that it doesn't scale properly if you change resolution. |
| 19:02 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | aaaaaaa I'm giving a talk in an hour |
| 19:03 | <&Derakon> | Discussing your research work for the folks at Google? |
| 19:03 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | No, actually, the stuff I'm working on is irrelevant to the team I've joined (thank god) |
| 19:03 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Er, the stuff I was working on. |
| 19:03 | <&Derakon> | ...thank god? Because you're sick of working on it? |
| 19:04 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Yes. I am so done with low level languages and embedded systems. |
| 19:04 | <&Derakon> | heh. |
| 19:04 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Anyways, there's been some lunch table interest in Lua, and since I'm the closest thing we have to an expert on the language, I got volunteered. |
| 19:05 | <&Derakon> | Ah. |
| 19:05 | <&Derakon> | Y'know, every once in awhile I worry about the fact that I haven't really worked extensively in anything except Python for, what, four years now? |
| 19:05 | <&Derakon> | Six years? |
| 19:06 | <&Derakon> | On the flipside, there hasn't really been any need for me to work in anything else. |
| 19:06 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I make a conscious effort to at least dabble in one new language each year. |
| 19:06 | <&Derakon> | But it can't be helping me be a rounded programmer. |
| 19:06 | <&Derakon> | The problem I have is coming up with projects that justify expending the effort on the language. |
| 19:07 | <&Derakon> | My only spare-time programming project, really, is Pyrel, and adding new languages to that willy-nilly would be a disservice to my collaborators. |
| 19:08 | | * ToxicFrog|W`rkn nods |
| 19:08 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I have enough personal projects on the go that I can often just pick an arbitrary language |
| 19:08 | <&ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | E.g. I did ifirc in clojure, even though it would have been faster in scala or lua, because I wanted more clojure practice. |
| 19:13 | | * Derakon blughs at his old code. |
| 19:13 | <&Derakon> | Pulling out magic numbers to be constants isn't very helpful when they're still magic numbers! |
| 19:21 | <&Derakon> | And debugging this mess once I tear them all out is going to be a pain because I probably won't be able to see anything. |
| 19:21 | <&Derakon> | I wish OpenGL were easier to debug... |
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| 20:38 | < MacGeek64> | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRETDodD3JU |
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| 20:40 | <@Tamber> | o.o |
| 20:40 | <@Tamber> | That idjit again. |
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| 20:53 | <&Derakon> | Eyep, this is gonna be hard to debug. http://derakon.dyndns.org/~chriswei/temp2/debugOpenGL.png |
| 20:53 | <&Derakon> | Though I do actually have some visible content, so I'm in vaguely the right area! |
| 21:20 | <~Vornicus> | woot |
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