code logs -> 2013 -> Sat, 23 Feb 2013< code.20130222.log - code.20130224.log >
--- Log opened Sat Feb 23 00:00:01 2013
--- Day changed Sat Feb 23 2013
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<@RStamer>
Must be a feature then (last time I talked to someone who read the spec, they said that wasn't a thing)
00:00
<@RStamer>
Also, V8 does the same thing. (silently nukes assignments to undefined)
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<@celticminstrel>
defineProperty may be a nice idea, but I really don't like the interface.
00:01
<@RStamer>
Yeah
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<@RStamer>
I can never remember how it works
00:02
<@celticminstrel>
This is why I didn't switch from __defineGetter__ as soon as I learned there was a "standard" alternative. >_>
00:04 * Vornicus returns from going to the library
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<~Vornicus>
hooray, being a 5 minute walk away from the library.
00:05
<&McMartin>
Woo
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01:16
<@Alek>
News: "Valve has let go 25 people from the middle ranks, programmers, animators, and designers. So far, their reasons are unknown." comment: "They've started work on Half-Life 3 in secret."
01:20
<@celticminstrel>
?
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<@Alek>
eh.
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<~Vornicus>
gnarg, hatred
04:59
<~Vornicus>
Hardest problem in CS time again.
05:00
<~Vornicus>
Character has ability scores, and ability bonuses, which are based off the ability scores.
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<&Derakon>
The problem of figuring out what exactly you were smoking two weeks earlier?
05:00
<~Vornicus>
Nope.
05:00
<~Vornicus>
Naming.
05:00
<&Derakon>
Ah.
05:00
<&Derakon>
Pyrel solves this by calling everything a Stat.
05:00
<~Vornicus>
Each individual race gets a bonus to certain ability scores.
05:00
<&Derakon>
But you might consider e.g. baseScore and derivedScore.
05:00
<~Vornicus>
What do I call the race's bonuses to ability scores?
05:01
<&Derakon>
Heh.
05:01
<&Derakon>
RacialModifier.
05:01
<&Derakon>
After all, it might be negative, so "bonus" is a misnomer.
05:01
<~Vornicus>
they're always positive.
05:01
<&Derakon>
At the moment!
05:02
<~Vornicus>
No, always, that's the rule.
05:02
<&Derakon>
Bah.
05:02
<~Vornicus>
but "modifier" is the word I was looking for.
05:02
<~Vornicus>
thank you!
05:02
<&Derakon>
\o/
05:11 * Vornicus has been grumping at that one for a while and just kept pushing the change off, but is now amidst refactoring that little piece of code.
05:12
<~Vornicus>
Also thank god for the "replace all" button and "search selection only"
05:12
<&Derakon>
:.,'as/\<foo\>/bar/g
05:12
<&Derakon>
Any good text editor has commands that look like line noise~
05:13
<~Vornicus>
yeah fuck that noise
05:13
<~Vornicus>
(literally)
05:13
<&Derakon>
(That is "from here to the "a" bookmark placed earlier, replace the "foo" symbol when it appears on its own (as opposed to as a substring of another symbol) with "bar")
05:13
<&Derakon>
I would not wish to stick my dick into noise.
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05:43
< Xon>
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/02/22/azure_problem_that_should_never_happen_e ver/
05:43
< Xon>
how the heck does that happen?
05:45
<@Namegduf>
I think you mean, how does it happen TWICE?
05:45
<@Namegduf>
They had a major outage before because of HTTPS cert expiry.
05:46
< Syk>
"It appears that Azure is in the grip of a global cascading fail."
05:46
< Syk>
ahahaha
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<@celticminstrel>
...heh.
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19:44
< ShellNinja>
Okay, I got the phone to set up a mobile hot spot.
19:46
< ShellNinja>
The iPad connects to the network, but accessing the internet fails.
19:46
< ShellNinja>
The phone itself can access the internet just fine.
19:47
< ShellNinja>
But the iPad takes several minutes to decide that there's a network problem, because the page isn't loading.
19:48
< ShellNinja>
What could be the problem here?
19:51
< JustBob>
Well, there's the obligatory: "You're using an Apple product," problem, but aside from that...
19:51
< JustBob>
Hrm. Have you considered looking into seeing if the phone is configured to accept a connection from the iPad?
19:54
< JustBob>
I suppose more information needed would be: Type of phone, your cellular provider.
19:59
< ShellNinja>
I'm not using the apple product, it's a client's. It's not just the iPad, I've tried to do this with my Android tablet, and the problem is identical.
20:00
< ShellNinja>
The devices properly connect to the phone's WAP. The are listed as connected on the phone.
20:00
< ShellNinja>
I can ping the phone, but nothing farther.
20:00
< ShellNinja>
It's a Motorola thing with Android, I think.
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< JustBob>
You might want to pull up the phone's config and make sure it's passing data properly, if you're deadstopped at the phone.
20:06
< JustBob>
But without a specific model/OS/program, I can only be vague. :p
20:10
<&ToxicFrog>
ShellNinja: depending on your provider, the phone might be configured to disallow tethering.
20:11
<&ToxicFrog>
You might be able to re-enable it yourself, or you might need to root the phone and install custom firmware.
20:15
< ShellNinja>
Okay, let's see. Model is MB526. Provider is OneCall (Norwegian). Android 2.3.6.
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< ShellNinja>
No idea how to enable/disable tethering here.
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< JustBob>
http://www.onecall.no/kundeservice/internett_via_mobilen.php is all I can really suggest?
21:06
< ShellNinja>
This won't work here. It suggests using the phone like a modem, but I've already tried connecting via bluetooth (fails due to lack of support) and the iPad doesn't appear to have USB ports.
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< JustBob>
Ah, well. I dunno.
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Argh. Fucking HP, reusing the same model name for 79 different laptops
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<@RStamer>
lol
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<@RStamer>
Things I've learned over the years: hardware manufacturers hate you and want you to use their support.
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Well, I do have a manual open now, in pdf form. Which is better than dell(?) which labels them pdf but really provides exe
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Bloody hell, it's actually quite easy to remove the hd, or at least the cover. Push the battery release the other way, pry off. Done.
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Nothing appears loose :(
23:20
<@Rhamphoryncus>
and the drive is still dea
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
dead
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<&McMartin>
=/
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
the SMART status actually gives it a pass, despite the short and long tests both immediately failing with a read error
23:21
<@Rhamphoryncus>
It got jostled at the airport while in a laptop bag and turned off
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Starting to get paranoid about desktop drives
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<&ToxicFrog>
...I was under the impression that, if the drive had failed a test, that would be recorded in the status buffer and the SMART test would report a failure.
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
It shows in the error logs but not in any of the statuses
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
It does sound like it's a controller failure
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
So in theory a data recovery company could get the contents off of it
23:39
<@Rhamphoryncus>
.. which costs as much as the entire laptop
23:39
<&ToxicFrog>
If you mean the controller on the motherboard, just connect it to a different computer.
23:39
<&ToxicFrog>
If you mean the control circuitry on the drive proper, you can often swap it out for the board from a different drive of the same model and fix things that way.
23:40
<@Rhamphoryncus>
I meant the latter
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<@Rhamphoryncus>
Running the bios's self test now
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