code logs -> 2013 -> Sat, 16 Feb 2013< code.20130215.log - code.20130217.log >
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02:23
<@gnolam>
http://pyfound.blogspot.ca/2013/02/python-trademark-at-risk-in-europe-we.html
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<@gnolam>
http://instacod.es/
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02:53
< JustBob>
http://instacod.es/62499
02:53
< JustBob>
Because.
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03:33
< RichyB>
C can be hip, too.
03:33
< RichyB>
http://instacod.es/62502
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05:47
<~Vornicus>
apparently some terrorist inplemented vim on top of emacs
05:48
<@iospace>
... what
05:49
<&McMartin>
zomgterrar
05:49
<~Vornicus>
https://gitorious.org/evil
05:53
<@iospace>
Vim > Emacs
05:53
<@iospace>
oh so much ^_^
05:55
< Syk>
st > nano > vim > emacs
05:55
< Syk>
c:
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05:59
< Syk>
why is everything running so slow now :<
06:49
<&jerith>
Guys. And girls. I need a name for a project.
06:50
<&jerith>
I'm splitting https://github.com/praekelt/vumi/blob/develop/vumi/config.py out into its own thing.
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10:31
<@TheWatcher>
'kusanidi' is probably too obvious
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11:04
< Specialist>
hi
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11:07
<@Tamber>
bye
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16:11
<@gnolam>
https://github.com/SiPlus/WebQuake
16:12
< Syk>
eeeeh, Quake 2 in HTML5 was cooler
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19:51
< ShellNinja>
How in Hell do I boot from a USB stick on a Win8 machine?
19:52
<@RobinStamer>
Is SecureBoot on?
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19:53
< ShellNinja>
No idea. What's that?
19:53
<@RobinStamer>
A thing that blocks any booting that isn't cryptographically signed.
19:54
< ShellNinja>
I doubt it.
19:54
<@RobinStamer>
Is this a prepurchased PC?
19:54
<@RobinStamer>
If so, it's very likely to be on.
19:55
< ShellNinja>
New. Straight out of the box.
19:59
<@froztbyte>
then it's likely on, yeah
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<@RobinStamer>
<Syk> but have a look at this http://www.linuxnewshere.com/index.php/linux-foundation-secure-boot-system-relea sed
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20:16
< ShellNinja>
Okay, maybe I should explain what I want to do.
20:17
< ShellNinja>
I want to wipe Win8 off the face of this computer.
20:17
< ShellNinja>
Then I want to install Win7 from USB.
20:18
< ShellNinja>
Anyone familiar with such a procedure?
20:21
<@RobinStamer>
Disable secure boot
20:22
<@RobinStamer>
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/17058-secure-boot-enable-disable-uefi.html <-- scroll down a bit
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20:26
< ShellNinja>
I'll try.
20:34
< ShellNinja>
Okay, this shit is now disabled. But my USB stick won't boot. Hm. I'll try folowing a YT video that shows how to downgrade.
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< AD>
Okay. Secure boot is off.
22:10
< AD>
USB options are set to the front of the boot queue.
22:10
< AD>
Why is my USB not booting?
22:11
< AD>
I'd appreciate an error message, but none such appear.
22:14
< AD>
I really really want to nuke everything.
22:15
< AD>
Is there some guaranteed way of booting something other than Win8?
22:16
< AD>
(I have tried installing Win7 from Win8, but that works only up to the point where it needs to restart, where it freezes on loading.)
22:25
<@Alek>
can't do that in windows.
22:25
<@Alek>
you ALWAYS need to install the oldest first.
22:25
<@Alek>
iirc.
22:26
<@Alek>
eesh.
22:27
<@Alek>
what I'd do is this: get a second drive, remove the first, install win7 to the second. except you can't install from usb... can you try to boot to console from a repair cd and then install from usb?
22:27
<@Alek>
or something.
22:27
<@Alek>
also, did you make the usb bootable in the first place?
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22:34
< ErikMesoy>
It came with Win8, which makes it hard to install the oldest first.
22:34
<&ToxicFrog>
AD: have you tested the USB stick in a different computer?
22:34
<&ToxicFrog>
One that you know can boot from USB in general?
22:35
< JustBob>
Mash F8 repeatedly during boot. :
22:35
< JustBob>
Err, F12, that is.
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22:40 * Alek pythons, snickers.
22:41
<@Alek>
I've got functions, if-elif-else, for, and while. time to start euler?
22:41
< AD>
ToxicFrog: Yes. It gave me an error saying that there were problems loading system. I assumed this was because either a) 32bit (testing laptop) and 64bit (Win7 on USB) mismatch or b) I've cooked it wrong.
22:42
< AD>
So I used a different piece of software that did all the cooking for me.
22:42
<@Alek>
eliminate bit mismatch first. >_>
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22:42
< AD>
If I'd gotten an error message, I'd know at least I have USB boot on properly.
22:43
< AD>
JustBob: This is UEFI, not BIOS.
22:43
<@RobinStamer>
AD: You may have to enable a compatability mode
22:44
< AD>
How?
22:46
<@RobinStamer>
Drege around in the EUFI's menu options?
22:47 * RobinStamer hasn't gotting W8 removed either, but has looked into it
22:50 * AD will try.
22:54
< AD>
Fucking finally. Thanks. Fucking about the UEFI options helped.
22:59
< JustBob>
And yet again, I'm given reason to not upgrade to win8.
23:02 * Alek dances
23:02
<@Alek>
now I know I can do euler, and do it right.
23:03 * Alek will probably go with less echo, next time.
23:03
< AD>
But can you V5?
23:03
<@Alek>
har har
23:04
< AD>
The GM is complaining about post shortage.
23:07
<@RobinStamer>
JustBob: it's not W8, it's UEFI
23:07
<@RobinStamer>
Which comes with almost all W8 computers
23:09
< AD>
W8 is terrible for other reasons.
23:12
<@RobinStamer>
It's Windows. It'll always be horrible
23:12
< AD>
No. There are Windows which are merely bad.
23:14
<@RobinStamer>
Sure. Windows 3.11.
23:15
<@RobinStamer>
But that's ancient.
23:16
< AD>
XP is pretty decent.
23:17
<@RobinStamer>
D:
23:19
<@RobinStamer>
I sure do love scrollbars in unresizable windows.
23:19
<@RobinStamer>
(XP is full of them)
23:19
<@RobinStamer>
But then again, most users don't see those windows)
23:21
<@RobinStamer>
At least W8 seemed to have fixed a number of them (as I didn't notice any)
23:21
<@RobinStamer>
So maybe there is hope.
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