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| 00:03 | < ToxicFrog> | McMartin: I'd be interested in reading that, actually~ |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | I can't find it online -_- |
| 00:03 | | * McMartin pokes |
| 00:11 | < Moltare> | haha! got it |
| 00:13 | <&McMartin> | ? |
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| 00:17 | < Moltare> | So I've now got a time stamper that pulls down epoch from an NTP time server into currentSessionTime. I can compare that against what the system clock claims as epoch to see what the device's offset is, and use that to save a lastSessionTime when exiting the app by any means; on loading the app again I can pull up lastSessionTime and compare it to currentSessionTime to find out how much time has |
| 00:17 | < Moltare> | passed between loads |
| 00:18 | < Moltare> | Which should allow asynchronous gameplay without resorting to the device's clock, since that can be altered trivially |
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| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | Nice |
| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | Did you work out the hang/crash issue? |
| 00:18 | <&McMartin> | TF: Sadly, this article does not exist and was someone being cranky. |
| 00:19 | < Moltare> | Yeah, the NTP server rejects attempts to poll it more than once every 4s, so I was sleeping the updater thread for 4100ms |
| 00:20 | <&McMartin> | And that was also the main thread, or...? |
| 00:20 | < Moltare> | No, but the main thread looked at it once ?? |
| 00:21 | <&McMartin> | I'm guessing this is suppose to be done with alarms? |
| 00:21 | < Moltare> | By all the documentation I've found for this particular approach, it ain't supposed to be done at all :P |
| 00:22 | < Moltare> | ie none, but it's possible I'm looking in the wrong place. |
| 00:22 | <&McMartin> | "Don't do that" is the usual rule for any given technique in Android, yes~ |
| 00:23 | < Moltare> | I have seen good things done in Android. There's three designs in my notebook that should behave very nicely |
| 00:24 | < Moltare> | and then there's this one~ |
| 00:24 | <@TheWatcher> | And people wonder why I resist programming for those things~ |
| 00:25 | < Moltare> | It's almost certainly my own rust causing most of the woe |
| 00:26 | < Moltare> | I'd trot out the "three years working in a language that spent seven years without an AND operator" excuse, but I should get past that one :P |
| 00:26 | | * TheWatcher goes to see if he has correctly written this, or whether it outright crashes Thief2 |
| 00:27 | <&McMartin> | You're writing a Thief2 container? |
| 00:27 | <@TheWatcher> | Nope, Thief2 scripts. Which are c++ classes, inside dlls, with some horrible connective glue. |
| 00:27 | <~Vornicus> | Why do you need to poll ntp that often anyway? |
| 00:28 | < Moltare> | I don't any more, I was Doing it Wrong |
| 00:30 | | * Moltare polls his bed for seven hours straight now |
| 00:32 | <@TheWatcher> | That sounds an excellent idea. |
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| 12:20 | | * TheWatcher tries to decide between pagination or a "show more" button on this |
| 12:21 | | * TheWatcher suspects pagination would be more convenient for the users when a lot of entries are involved, hrms |
| 12:49 | < Nemu> | Is it open source? |
| 12:50 | < Nemu> | If it's open source, you should do the least intuitive and most frustrating option |
| 12:50 | < Nemu> | And then when people complain, tell them that you're supporting an arbitrary "X is a Y" design methodology. |
| 12:51 | < gnolam> | Nah. When people complain, you tell them to "fix it themselves". |
| 12:51 | < gnolam> | By which you actually mean "fork it, because I'm never going to accept your patches". |
| 12:52 | < Nemu> | I'm still steamed about evince's, "A window is a document" design idea |
| 12:52 | < Nemu> | Like, tabs, please, for the love of god. |
| 12:53 | < Nemu> | I can take two physical documents and put them in a binder. Why can't evince's window be the binder? |
| 12:53 | < gnolam> | You've never had several PDFs side by side? |
| 12:53 | < Nemu> | I have. Across two monitors and four workspaces |
| 12:54 | < Nemu> | It gets confusing. |
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| 13:29 | | * TheWatcher readsup |
| 13:29 | <@TheWatcher> | Nemu: yes, I could do that |
| 13:29 | <@TheWatcher> | But I'm not an ass. |
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| 16:01 | < ToxicFrog> | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 16:01 | | * ToxicFrog gets off the phone with Google |
| 16:01 | <~Vornicus> | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 16:02 | | * TheWatcher hands TF a Stiff Drink |
| 16:02 | <@Tamber> | C-u 30 A |
| 16:05 | < ToxicFrog> | The recruiter is sending me some more info about the interview process and the phone screen is scheduled for next week |
| 16:06 | <@Tamber> | \o/ |
| 16:06 | <@Tamber> | Did you at least wait until the phone was on-hook before glee-ing everywhere? |
| 16:08 | <@TheWatcher> | S'funny how that phrase is still in currency, despite the fact that phones haven't had switchhooks for ages. |
| 16:09 | <@Tamber> | All of ours, other than the mobile ones, do. <.< |
| 16:11 | < ToxicFrog> | Tamber: yes. |
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| 16:13 | <@TheWatcher> | What are you applying for? |
| 16:13 | <@TheWatcher> | (position, I mean, not reason) |
| 16:13 | < FurryHelix> | Apparently, someone decided to put my connection on-hook~ ?? |
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| 16:51 | < ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: engineering. |
| 16:53 | < ToxicFrog> | My main concern is that, even if they want me, none of the projects at the Waterloo office will be something I'd enjoy; they seem to be very Java-centric. |
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| 19:18 | < froztbyte> | <TheWatcher> S'funny how that phrase is still in currency, despite the fact that phones haven't had switchhooks for ages. |
| 19:18 | < froztbyte> | except of course in VOIP |
| 19:18 | < froztbyte> | well, SIP, etc |
| 19:18 | < froztbyte> | where the handler methods often involve hook-naming |
| 19:19 | < froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: engineering in the SRE sense, or the other engineering teams whose name I can't remember? |
| 19:20 | < ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: engineering as in "I want to do programming and my friends at Google seem pretty confident that some of the teams are doing stuff I'd find fun" |
| 19:20 | < froztbyte> | ah k |
| 19:21 | < froztbyte> | yeah, that's more the proper dev side |
| 19:21 | < froztbyte> | than SRE |
| 19:21 | < froztbyte> | they pinged me for SRE |
| 19:21 | < froztbyte> | but that's essentially a plumber. |
| 19:46 | < ToxicFrog> | What does SRE stand for in this context? |
| 20:09 | < RichyB> | 'R' -> 'Reliability'? |
| 20:10 | < RichyB> | Systems Reliability Engineer in this case, I'll bet? Since that's the backronym that most closely fits systems operations work. |
| 20:21 | <&jerith> | Site Reliability Engineer. |
| 20:21 | <&jerith> | Assuming we're talking about Google. |
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| 20:45 | < RichyB> | jerith, ta. |
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| 23:32 | <~Vornicus> | TF, I just thought of one: "inscribe" |
| 23:32 | <~Vornicus> | (as opposite of parse) |
| 23:46 | <&McMartin> | http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2012/07/four-theories-on-cryptography-of -star.html |
| 23:46 | <&McMartin> | From the other network. Fun stuff. |
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