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| 01:14 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
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| 01:48 | | * McMartin announces the Ten Deadly Words. |
| 01:48 | <&McMartin> | "I think that this is safe to reintegrate to trunk" |
| 01:51 | <@Tamber> | Whereupon, it all catches fire. |
| 01:52 | <&McMartin> | Indeed |
| 02:03 | < io|SPAMM> | Halt and catch fire? |
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| 02:08 | | * McMartin prints out 9 pages of diffs for code review purposes |
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| 10:00 | | * TheWatcher eyes work |
| 10:01 | <@TheWatcher> | And here, in a microcosm, is the difference between a programmer's brain, and a normal person's. |
| 10:03 | <@TheWatcher> | Email from Mondya in relevant part: "Estates need to switch of electrical supplies to the LF offices next week Wed morning, 7am to 9am. Please let me know if this is not possible". I'm in one of those offices, and have two servers therein that need to stay up as close to 24/7 as possible |
| 10:04 | <@TheWatcher> | There's the literal "well, of course it's possible; you just flip the breaker!" but I ruled that one out because I know he means "if you have machines that can't be powered down then" |
| 10:05 | <@TheWatcher> | I planned to move the servers to a different room on Monday next week, and didn't reply to the email, because it obviously is possible as far as I'm concerned. |
| 10:05 | <@TheWatcher> | To me, it was: if(!possible) { contact_me("Not possible"); } |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | Co-worker just poked me, apparently the guy who sent that email apparently actually meant `contact_me(possible ? "Possible" : "Not possible");` |
| 10:07 | | * TheWatcher has that sentence shot for blatantly suffering from lack of tea |
| 10:07 | <&jerith> | TheWatcher: Yeah, I also read that as "speak now or forever hold your pieces". |
| 10:08 | <@TheWatcher> | I'd just dismiss it, but this happens a couple of days after the Laptop Encryption Hilarity |
| 10:09 | <@TheWatcher> | (which also demonstrated the fuindamental differences between people who work with logic all the time, and normal people) |
| 10:38 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I've always had issues with that. I blame it on being an aspie |
| 10:39 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I've come to realize that english doesn't have terminology for absolutes, it's only the dictionaries that pretend it does |
| 10:40 | < Rhamphoryncus> | "Are you going to be here on monday?" "Yes" <-- not guaranteed to be there on monday |
| 10:42 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Trying to be literally correct with "My intent is to be there on monday" is actually worse. A simple "Yes" implies a large degree of confidence, while stating as an intent does not |
| 10:43 | < Rhamphoryncus> | "Yes, unless something interferes" is likewise just noise |
| 10:43 | <&jerith> | "I plan to." |
| 10:44 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Unless you really are concerned about interference and want to convey your reduced degree of confidents. "Yes, unless my car acts up again." |
| 10:47 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I've gotten a lot of flak over the years for being vague and non-committal so I've had to learn not to be |
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| 10:57 | <@TheWatcher> | Rhamph: aspergers has nothing to do with it, IMO. It's simply that the majority of people just don't think logically. |
| 10:58 | <@TheWatcher> | If for no other reason than the fact that they're never trained to unless they go into very specific disciplines. |
| 11:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I was pretty extreme |
| 11:05 | <@TheWatcher> | Fairynuff |
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| --- Log closed Thu Jul 12 13:02:18 2012 |
| --- Log opened Thu Jul 12 13:03:52 2012 |
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| 13:24 | < ToxicFrog> | TheWatcher: the laptop encryption hilarity? |
| 13:27 | <@TheWatcher> | Short version: UK Data Protection people are Rather Pissed at the university because of total muppets in Medicine losing laptops full of confidential pateint data on trains, has instituted a rule that laptops should be encrypted. To speed the process of making this happen, they put up a questionnaire asking "Do you have a university owned laptop? If yes, has it been encrypted?" |
| 13:29 | <@TheWatcher> | Got a Rather Shirty email from the head of EPS IT services a few days ago to the effect "rather more people said they didn't have a laptop than we were expecting" and claimed the question was "do you have a laptop tha tyou use for university-related work" |
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| 13:30 | <@TheWatcher> | Large numbers of people in CS and Maths, who use their own personal laptops for work, replied no to the university survey because they /don't/ have a university owned laptop. They answered the question that was asked, not the question the people asking it wanted to ask, basically. |
| 13:31 | < Tarinaky> | Eks Dee |
| 13:32 | <@TheWatcher> | This apparently royally pissed off some people in EPS ITS ¬¬ |
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| 13:38 | < ToxicFrog> | Hmm. While MS is so eagerly giving me free stuff, what should I grab other than win7? |
| 13:39 | < Tarinaky> | GRAB ALL THE THINGS! |
| 13:39 | < Tarinaky> | I think that's the only sensible answer. |
| 13:39 | < Tarinaky> | You never know when the Uboats might be back and we descend back into rationing and the black market. |
| 13:39 | < ToxicFrog> | ...all 173 things, including three different versions of every Office app, XP, Vista, and Windows Services for UNIX. |
| 13:39 | < ToxicFrog> | Yeah, I don't think so. |
| 14:05 | < gnolam> | http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gnolam/pictures/caution.jpg |
| 14:41 | | * Kindamoody trips over gnolam's crate, causing it to fall over. :P |
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| 14:54 | < RichyB> | ToxicFrog, get WSUnix for the comedy value at least. |
| 15:30 | < gnolam> | Kindamoody: then you'll experience SERVERE DAMAGE |
| 15:30 | <@Kindamoody> | :P |
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| 23:18 | | * ToxicFrog eyes twenty different shades of fuck out of Windows Update |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | Getting cert errors? |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | No, it's so much funnier than that |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | Windows installs fine |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | Boots fine |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | Updates fine |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | Time comes to install win7 SP1 |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | Which fails! |
| 23:19 | < ToxicFrog> | GUESS WHY |
| 23:19 | <&McMartin> | SP1 is not installed? |
| 23:20 | < ToxicFrog> | No, although that would be hilarious |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | ENOSPC? |
| 23:20 | < ToxicFrog> | Also no |
| 23:20 | < ToxicFrog> | It fails because it cannot find the OS root partition |
| 23:20 | < ToxicFrog> | You know, the one that is currently mounted and has the OS running off it |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | Ouch. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | I... don't remember that being an issue in the past... |
| 23:21 | < ToxicFrog> | And is named C: and is located first on the drive and in the partition table. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | ... unless... |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | Do a check in Disk Manager, make sure there isn't an unmounted "System Reserved" partition. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | Though that's /boot, not /. |
| 23:21 | < ToxicFrog> | No, I've already solved it |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | What was it? |
| 23:21 | < ToxicFrog> | C: wasn't flagged as bootable in the BIOS. |
| 23:22 | < ToxicFrog> | Er, in the partition table, rather |
| 23:22 | < ToxicFrog> | No modern bootloader cares about this in the slightest. |
| 23:22 | < ToxicFrog> | Including windows' since, oh, winNT or so. |
| 23:22 | < ToxicFrog> | But the SP1 install will fail with a total inability to locate / if any other partition, or no partition, has the bootable flag set. |
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