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| 12:15 | < TheWatcher> | ugh, why, why does MediaWiki strip comments from wikitext. Damnit. |
| 12:18 | < TheWatcher> | (actually, I know why - potential vulnerability) |
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| 13:07 | | * TheWatcher eyes php's base64_decode |
| 13:07 | < TheWatcher> | WTF, this string is valid base64, why are you failing, you piece of shit?! |
| 13:07 | < Tamber> | It's PHP; you /need/ to ask? |
| 13:08 | < TheWatcher> | How, how did this language become so bloody popular? |
| 13:09 | < Tamber> | Because it's easy. |
| 13:09 | < Tamber> | ish. |
| 13:12 | < TheWatcher> | Dear, sweet, merciful Cthulhu how I hate this stuff. |
| 13:36 | < kwsn> | ? |
| 13:37 | < kwsn> | Tamber: http://colinm.org/language_checklist.html |
| 13:37 | | * Tamber isn't advocating anything. :) |
| 13:38 | < kwsn> | no just read that |
| 13:38 | < kwsn> | ^_^ |
| 13:38 | < Tamber> | I have. :p |
| 13:38 | < kwsn> | ah ok :P |
| 13:39 | < Tamber> | The "You appear to believe that ... The entire world speaks 7-bit ASCII" amuses me in that way that, if I don't laugh, I /will/ kill someone. :) |
| 13:39 | < kwsn> | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO someone turned the lights on in here T_T |
| 13:39 | < Tamber> | *ssssssssssss~* IT BUUUUUUURNSSSSS! |
| 13:39 | < celticminstrel> | ...that's a bad thing why? |
| 13:39 | < kwsn> | celticminstrel: half of them were off, so there was enough light anyway |
| 13:39 | < kwsn> | now they're all on :< |
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| 14:49 | | * TheWatcher ponders multiple background images on a single html element. Pros: massively less cluttered html, Cons: won't work in IE 7 or earlier. |
| 14:50 | < TheWatcher> | The question is, do I give a shit about lunatics with IE7 or earlier. I'm very much leaning towards "No. No I don't. Fucking masochists." |
| 14:50 | < Tamber> | Of course you don't. |
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| 16:08 | < sshine> | I recently ran into a URL-shortening service intended for academic citation in the sense that it makes a snapshot of the website and a link that is more or less guaranteed to work in the future. |
| 16:10 | < sshine> | does anyone know its name? |
| 16:12 | < Tamber> | wayback.archive.org? :p |
| 16:13 | < Tamber> | (Okay, I know; it doesn't shorten, shush.) |
| 16:14 | < sshine> | Tamber, I think it mentioned that it was part of some initiative that the wayback machine is also a part of. |
| 16:15 | < Tamber> | ...huh. |
| 16:15 | < Tamber> | Awesome. |
| 16:22 | | * Pandemic deletes the wayback machine |
| 16:24 | < Pandemic> | don't mind me, I'm just a sys-admin |
| 16:25 | < gnolam> | WebCite? |
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| 16:56 | | * Janus does a dance |
| 16:58 | < Janus> | I'm not sure if changing numbers at random, swapping <='s for <'s, and replace 1s with -1s for several hours is how debugging is supposed to be done, but it finally works! |
| 16:58 | < Tamber> | Shotgun debugging? |
| 16:59 | < Janus> | Shotgun debugging takes a lot longer than the name implies |
| 16:59 | < Tamber> | Hehehe |
| 16:59 | < gnolam> | Tamber: As long as it's not this kind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHdg3yeU2iY |
| 17:00 | < Tamber> | ... |
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| 17:39 | < Derakon> | I think I may actually be starting to run low on work... |
| 17:39 | < Tamber> | o.o |
| 17:39 | < Derakon> | I didn't expect this to happen when my boss and coworker both went on vacation for a lengthy period, but all of the major stuff I needed to get done is done. |
| 17:40 | < Derakon> | So now I'm down to more fiddly and/or prospective stuff |
| 17:40 | < Tamber> | Could it be because they're /not/ there? ;) |
| 17:40 | < Derakon> | You joke, but I'm not a work source in this team; I'm a work sink. |
| 17:40 | < Derakon> | That is, other people produce tasks and I complete them; I very rarely produce tasks for other people to do. |
| 17:41 | | * Tamber was meaning that in the "They're not there to meddle" sense. |
| 17:41 | < Derakon> | Yes, and "meddling" largely equates to "producing new tasks". |
| 17:41 | < Tamber> | :) |
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| 17:46 | < Derakon> | So, new project that I can at least start planning out: we want to port the microscope code to another microscope. |
| 17:47 | < Derakon> | There's been a fair amount of work done to make the other microscope's hardware similar to the current one, but there are still important differences. |
| 17:47 | < Derakon> | So I guess the question is, do I fork the codebase or try to make it modular enough to handle those differences with just a config file or something? |
| 17:49 | < Derakon> | For one example: the old microscope has a set of motors to move the sample around with respect to the viewpoint (so you can look at different parts of the slide). There's a bunch of UI elements and code dealing with moving the stage, mapping the slide, remembering points of interest, etc. With the other microscope, you manually turn knobs to move the sample around -- no programmatic position control or even position information. |
| 17:49 | < Tamber> | I'd say the latter (Of course, this is me at a "I just play with code" level ;); easier to manage changes to the code they share. |
| 17:49 | < Derakon> | Well, that's the obvious benefit, yes. |
| 17:50 | < Derakon> | The obvious cost is that I have to deal with modifying the shared codebase so it works for both scopes without breaking anything in the process. |
| 17:50 | < Tamber> | *nods* |
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| 18:36 | < TheWatcher> | Having forked, parallel trees for either scope is going to introduce its own problems, though - you'll need to make sure bugs get fixed in both trees if the bug is in code they shared |
| 18:36 | < Derakon> | That's the obvious cost to forking, yes. :) |
| 18:37 | < Alek> | fork that with a rusty spoon. |
| 18:37 | < Derakon> | Looks like there's 21 modules that would need to be modified or removed to take into account missing hardware. |
| 18:37 | < TheWatcher> | I /personally/ would go for a modular approach on a single tree. But then I tend to go that way in pretty much all my code. |
| 18:38 | < Derakon> | Some of those are trivial (just don't create two entire windows relating to sample positioning), some less so. |
| 18:38 | < Tamber> | TheWatcher, well, of course; how else are you supposed to swap the teddy-bear in the middle of it with a sheep-skull when trying to make it work on Mondays? :) |
| 18:39 | < TheWatcher> | Oh, you've seen that module in my Megaphone code, then?~ |
| 18:40 | < TheWatcher> | (seriously though, I actually did do something vaguely equivalent to that on Monday and nobody noticed) |
| 18:40 | < Tamber> | Hee. |
| 18:40 | < Tamber> | I've seen bits of your code; I don't really stand a chance of understanding most of it, I think. |
| 18:41 | < Derakon> | And you think TW does~? |
| 18:41 | < ToxicFrog> | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 18:41 | < ToxicFrog> | "B. Kelly, "PCIU: Hardware Implementations of an Efficient Packet Classification Algorithm with an Incremental Update Capability," International Journal of Reconfigurable Computing, vol. 2011, Article ID 648483, 21 pages, 2011. doi:10.1155/2011/648483." |
| 18:41 | < Tamber> | I mean, when you have to start wandering outside of the BMP to find the right eldritch runes to make it not eat your brains out... |
| 18:41 | < Derakon> | Dude, congrats! |
| 18:42 | < TheWatcher> | TF: Awesome, congratulations :D |
| 18:43 | < Derakon> | Hm, looks like Child's Play is going to top $10 million total donations (over the life of the charity) this year. |
| 18:44 | < Derakon> | Man, this is the eighth year for that thing. Seems like it should be younger... |
| 18:46 | < Janus> | congrats! |
| 18:47 | < ToxicFrog> | http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijrc/2011/648483/ is the actual paper. |
| 18:47 | < ToxicFrog> | (my contribution is basically everything related to Handel-C) |
| 18:47 | | * ToxicFrog bounces around |
| 18:48 | < gnolam> | Congratulations! |
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| 20:22 | < McMartin> | TF: Woo, publication |
| 21:07 | < kwsn> | I'm so odd, I tend to write out code by hand before typing it up, somehow that tends to work better for me o-o;; |
| 21:08 | < Tamber> | 's okay, you're not the only one. :p |
| 21:08 | < kwsn> | heh |
| 21:08 | < Derakon> | Ehh, the actual "writing code" aspect takes a trivial amount of time compared to the designing and debugging processes. |
| 21:08 | < Derakon> | So who cares? |
| 21:09 | | * Tamber feeds another tree into the line-printer. |
| 21:09 | < kwsn> | Derakon: yes but i'm less tempted to do COMPILE AND TEST (like guess and check) that way |
| 21:17 | < Janus> | graphing paper is among my wisest purchases. I am not sure how I coded before without it |
| 21:17 | < Tamber> | :) |
| 21:17 | < Tamber> | I tend to find I struggle to understand code unless I've printed it. Might be because it's rather difficult to doodle and write notes in the margins of the screen. |
| 21:21 | < kwsn> | home time :P |
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