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| 02:29 | < Kazriko> | Tarinaky, what hosting are you using? |
| 02:31 | < Kazriko> | The cheapest hosting I could find was $8 per month for 256mb of ram... |
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| 08:23 | < Tarinaky> | The support have increased the amount of burst RAM I have. |
| 08:24 | < Tarinaky> | Kazriko: Zany Host. I'm paying ?9.10 for 3 months. |
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| 09:39 | < Namegduf> | Tarinaky: Be warned that burst RAM can be shared between literally every other VPS on the box- and the common virtualisation software permitting burst RAM even permits "guaranteed" RAM to be oversold. |
| 09:39 | < Namegduf> | Prices that cheap come at the cost of quality. :P |
| 09:40 | < Tarinaky> | For a command I only need to run when I set up the box that's fine :p |
| 09:40 | < Tarinaky> | Not the -actual- purpose of the box. |
| 09:40 | < Namegduf> | There's regularly cases of hosts charging double for Xen with the same amount of guaranteed RAM, because Xen can't be oversold. |
| 09:41 | < Namegduf> | Overselling guaranteed RAM is not particularly unusual. |
| 09:42 | | * Tarinaky shrugs. |
| 09:42 | < Tarinaky> | My point is it only has to work, not work well. |
| 09:43 | < Namegduf> | I'm just commenting on the recommendation. For ?3, it might be something you can run with, but I recommend strongly against buying container-based VPSes for anything you care about. |
| 09:43 | < Tarinaky> | Noted. |
| 09:43 | < Tarinaky> | But seriously. All I want to run on this is rtorrent, screen and sshd. |
| 09:44 | < Namegduf> | Ouch. |
| 09:44 | < Tarinaky> | Ouch? |
| 09:45 | < Namegduf> | Virtualisation stuff can't handle fair distribution of disk I/O, so the result is that there's two kinds of host: Hosts which strictly ban torrenting, and hosts whose VPSes randomly get 95%+ iowait because of disk I/O being hammered by other people torrenting. |
| 09:46 | < Namegduf> | It might work out for you, but jeeze I would not want to be on that box. |
| 09:47 | < Tarinaky> | I didn't know that. |
| --- Log closed Wed Aug 10 09:52:56 2011 |
| --- Log opened Wed Aug 10 09:53:04 2011 |
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| 09:53 | < Namegduf> | And it doesn't essentially cause results that bad, it's just capable of it because disk I/O is shared and torrents make lots and lots of spread out requests. |
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| 09:58 | | * Tarinaky shrugs. If I get told to quit it I'll change to something else. |
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| 11:03 | < Tarinaky> | TBH, I think that the disk space limitations mean that for 'heavier' torrenting I'll have to use it as a tunnel rather than a server anyway. |
| 11:03 | < Tarinaky> | Which shouldn't involve any disk io at all. |
| 11:04 | | * TheWatcher is vaguely wondering why you're bothering in that case |
| 11:04 | < Tarinaky> | Bittorrent is banned in halls. |
| 11:04 | < Tarinaky> | Specifically, it's blocked by the firewall. |
| 11:05 | < Tarinaky> | From what I've read I can use ssh tunnelling to bypass firewall blocks of this nature. |
| 11:09 | < TheWatcher> | Yeah. Although I suspect you'll need to use it as a SOCKS proxy for torrenting |
| 11:09 | < Tarinaky> | SOCks is a Windows thing isn't it? |
| 11:09 | < Tarinaky> | Oh wait. |
| 11:09 | < Tarinaky> | I have a windows box. |
| 11:09 | | * Tarinaky facepalms. |
| 11:09 | < TheWatcher> | No |
| 11:10 | < TheWatcher> | SOCKS is essentially a generic packet proxy. You can use it to do things like dynamic port forwarding |
| 11:10 | < TheWatcher> | for example http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/449 |
| 11:13 | < Tarinaky> | Cool. |
| 11:17 | < Tarinaky> | I have no idea if there's a windows version of tsocks though. |
| 11:18 | < TheWatcher> | If you're using something like Vuze, that has SOCKS support built in |
| 11:20 | < Tarinaky> | Vuze is aweful >.> |
| 11:21 | < TheWatcher> | IDK, I never torrent, so |
| 11:21 | < Tarinaky> | Moral highground? |
| 11:21 | < Tarinaky> | :p |
| 11:21 | < froztbyte> | ssh -w, bind whatever client you use to that interface address and just specifically route it out elsewhere |
| 11:21 | < froztbyte> | ^ another option |
| 11:21 | < TheWatcher> | No, nothing I ever really want to get |
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| 11:38 | < Tarinaky> | Youtube has a lot of good tvshows these days. |
| 11:38 | < Tarinaky> | And with adblocks installed... |
| 11:39 | < Tarinaky> | Yeah. I'm a bad person. Firewall bypassing, advert blocking, ip-stealing... |
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| 11:47 | | * TheWatcher doesn't watch TV shows |
| 11:49 | < TheWatcher> | (but as for ad blocking, have at it; I run a filtering proxy and other tricks to do that myself. Haet the malware-laden shit) |
| 11:49 | < AnnoDomini> | Ad blocking is not bad. |
| --- Log closed Wed Aug 10 11:55:51 2011 |
| --- Log opened Wed Aug 10 11:56:00 2011 |
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| 12:07 | < Tarinaky> | I'm stealing straight from Google's golden plates. |
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| 12:16 | < froztbyte> | Tarobinaky |
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| 18:35 | < gnolam> | Booya. Combined output. |
| 18:43 | < froztbyte> | don't cross the streams |
| 18:45 | < Alek> | you know what I said about not crossing the streams? CROSS THE STREAMS! |
| 18:47 | < Alek> | quick JS question. |
| 18:48 | < Alek> | can you meta variables? that is, create, assign, and retrieve variables whose names are created by input elsewhere in the script or in another script? |
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| 19:29 | < celticminstrel> | Alek: I'm not quite sure, but you might be able to do something like $(foo) to get the value of a variable whose name is stored in the variable foo. I haven't actually done something like that in JavaScript, but I might've seen something somewhere... |
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| 19:33 | < RichardBarrell> | In Javascript, no you can't do that. You're thinking of $$foo in PHP. Javascript has eval('foo'), but eval is evil, and so is $$foo. |
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| 19:45 | < celticminstrel> | Eh, I thought I saw JavaScript doing something like that somewhere, but I can't remember. I could certainly just be getting confused with PHP. |
| 19:57 | < ToxicFrog> | Alek: not to my knowledge, but I'm pretty sure JS has associative arrays, so you can just use those. |
| 20:01 | < celticminstrel> | From what I've heard, it doesn't have a separate associative array type but treats all objects as associative arrays. |
| 20:04 | < ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 20:05 | < ToxicFrog> | So yeah, rather than using globals for this (which is a bad idea even in languages which permit it), store the relevant data in an AA and then just data[foo]. |
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| 20:39 | < Alek> | meeh. |
| 20:39 | < Alek> | ok. |
| 20:41 | < Alek> | seems like it's got objects that are default, too, at first glance. like .length - the example I saw wasn't clear as to whether it was set, or whether it actually checked the length of the array. |
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| 23:04 | | * gnolam rarghs |
| 23:05 | <@Tamber> | wx strikes again? |
| 23:06 | < gnolam> | Yes. |
| 23:07 | | * Tamber patpats, offers tea? |
| 23:08 | < gnolam> | This is more of a "hard liquor" situation. :P |
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| 23:14 | < Derakon> | Whups. |
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| 23:56 | < gnolam> | ... finally |
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