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| 00:30 | < ToxicFrog> | \o/ |
| 00:30 | < ToxicFrog> | Paper accepted for publication! |
| 00:30 | < ToxicFrog> | I am going to be published in the International Journal of Reconfigurable Computing! |
| 00:30 | < ToxicFrog> | this is the coolest thing ever |
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| 00:34 | < Reiver> | Cooler than your wedding?~ |
| 00:34 | < Reiver> | Oh wait Symbols not here that's no fun ?? |
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| 02:25 | | * Derakon eyes his email. |
| 02:25 | < Derakon> | So okay, Pyro is a Python library for remote objects. |
| 02:25 | < Derakon> | Now apparently there's Pyrolite, "a lightweight Pyro client library for Java". |
| 02:51 | < McMartin> | Reminder that Jython exists |
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| 06:52 | | * kw\t-2 waves, night all |
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| 11:41 | < gnolam> | Oh. Google Sites has upped its file size limit. |
| 11:41 | < gnolam> | Nice. |
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| 20:03 | < McMartin> | My copy of "JavaScript: The Good Parts" came in today: it is smaller than many comic books |
| 20:03 | < McMartin> | So I skipped ahead to "The Awful Parts" and noticed this included not only "+ can be used for both addition and string concatenation" but "JavaScript floating point is IEEE 754 compliant instead of being BCD" |
| 20:04 | < McMartin> | This book is not off to a good start |
| 20:04 | < Tamber> | ... |
| 20:33 | < Vornicus> | Yeah, no. |
| 20:35 | < Vornicus> | I personally found JS to be, um, meh. small and simple, does what it needs to, gets out of the way. |
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| 21:26 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I found javascript to be batshit insane |
| 21:27 | < Rhamphoryncus> | iirc, the array/dict combo was a common subject of my ire |
| 21:27 | < Rhamphoryncus> | oh wait, the array/dict/OBJECT combo |
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| 21:31 | < ToxicFrog> | Rhamphoryncus: why is that a problem? |
| 21:33 | < ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: yeah, the problem with JS is not the language, it's the fact that most of the time you end up working in browser environments. |
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| 21:59 | < McMartin> | I mainly want to learn it because JS is the only prototype-inheritance OO system in actual use |
| 22:00 | < McMartin> | Unless you count niche systems like Game Maker, and for the purposes of this claim I don't~ |
| 22:01 | < McMartin> | Also, uh, yeah, "objects and dicts are, when you get down to it, basically the same thing" is true in every scripting language I can think of. |
| 22:01 | < McMartin> | "Arrays are dicts with numbers in them" is rarer but not unheard of - Lua does that too. |
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| 22:17 | | * TheWatcher readsup |
| 22:19 | < TheWatcher> | TF: this is why only a complete masochist attempts to use js directly. Mootools, jQuery and the like are popular for a reason |
| 22:19 | < TheWatcher> | s/directly/without help/ at least |
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| 22:23 | < McMartin> | TW: Well, JS is deployed in other environments too. |
| 22:24 | < McMartin> | It turns out it's secretly Windows's bash. |
| 22:24 | < TheWatcher> | Huh, this I did not know! |
| 22:26 | < McMartin> | A whole bunch of COM garbage turns out to be exported as JScript objects, which you can just invoke like methods. |
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| 23:03 | < Tamber> | Hooray vague documentation. |
| 23:05 | < Tamber> | "a data structure mirroring the response is returned" Which gives me precisely no additional information whatsoever~ |
| 23:20 | < Tamber> | ...well, that was blindingly obvious after the fact. It's a hashref with the same structure as the original XML. |
| 23:20 | < McMartin> | ... how does it distinguish attributes from child nodes? |
| 23:22 | < Tamber> | http://pastebin.furryhelix.co.uk/post/31 That's the Data::Dumper output for the structure. |
| 23:23 | < TheWatcher> | Wait |
| 23:24 | < TheWatcher> | they actually stuck @ in a hash key, why? |
| 23:24 | | * Tamber shrugs. |
| 23:25 | < McMartin> | Perl requiring type information on every reference to a variable is one of my least favorite features thereof~ |
| 23:25 | | * Tamber isn't particularly bothered either way. That said, Tamber doesn't find COBOL that bad, so there's definite mental damage. ;) |
| 23:26 | < TheWatcher> | It's one thing to do it to variables, but to put it in a hash key? |
| 23:26 | < TheWatcher> | That's just mental, and asking for trouble with inadvertent array interpolation |
| 23:26 | < McMartin> | I looked at COBOL once, and realized that it was a DSL. As such, all complaints about it fail the first hurdle automatically. |
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| 23:56 | < Derakon> | McM: DSL? |
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