| --- Log opened Tue May 24 00:00:47 2011 |
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| 00:47 | | * Derakon eyes WX. |
| 00:47 | < Derakon> | Okay, I got my OSX program working on Linux without too much difficulty (all due to differing strictness in OpenGL calls)...but the UI is all over the place. |
| 00:47 | < Derakon> | I can't see how you'd make a good cross-platform UI without a ton of platform-specific switches in there to subtly adjust pixel offsets. |
| 00:50 | < McMartin> | If you want that, use Qt~ |
| 00:50 | < Derakon> | Yeah, yeah. I'm kinda entrenched here. |
| 01:19 | | * gnolam stabs Linux. |
| 01:19 | < gnolam> | Mmm, usability. |
| 01:22 | < gnolam> | I just want to add a keyboard shortcut. WHY ARE YOU MAKING IT SO HARD? |
| 01:25 | < gnolam> | RARRRRRRRRGH |
| 01:26 | < gnolam> | Fuck it. |
| 01:27 | < gnolam> | I guess I'm modifying one of the built-in ones. |
| 01:27 | < gnolam> | But that I should have to do that in 20-fucking-11 is a fucking travesty. |
| 01:31 | < gnolam> | (But then again, every single Linux desktop environment I've come across, with the sole exception of KDE (and KDE 4 is absolutely godawful in every other way), still to this day requires you to hand-edit obscure configuration files to be able to set sane locale options) |
| 01:34 | < gnolam> | Also notable is that this actually worked in previous versions of XFCE. Which means that someone has made a conscious effort to break it. |
| 01:36 | < gnolam> | And, as usual, the only help available is in the form of old, outdated forum or mailing list posts. |
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| 16:29 | < gnolam> | o/` A process man am I, and I'm tellin' you no lie o/` |
| 16:39 | < gnolam> | (It's my official "wait for a time slot on the cluster" song) |
| 16:54 | < Stalker> | Do people have suggestions for a ticket issue system supporting distributed repositories (IE: Git)? Preferrably PHP based. |
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| 18:19 | < gnolam> | Stalker: Trac? |
| 18:19 | < Stalker> | Yeah, looking at it. But I can't make it work with git. |
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| 20:51 | < RichardBarrell> | I think I need to read up a bit on numerical stability. http://mitzi.robarr.co.uk/splatt.html |
| 20:52 | < RichardBarrell> | What I *want* is to have those orbiting things end up settling into stable positions. :) |
| 20:52 | < gnolam> | Is that page supposed to do anything? |
| 20:52 | < RichardBarrell> | Yes; if it doesn't then please tell me what browser you are using? |
| 20:54 | < RichardBarrell> | Ah, right. I had a bug in FF3.6 that made it completely non-operational. Fixed. |
| 20:55 | < RichardBarrell> | (I suppose that it isn't so much numerical stability as I didn't bother to think about coming up with equations that would actually converge.) |
| 21:23 | < McMartin> | RichardBarrell: For the record, https://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/android/CCA.apk is now done and working. |
| 21:23 | < McMartin> | (Regarding our discussion earlier of mobile graphics) |
| 21:24 | < RichardBarrell> | I'm pondering the idea of an IRC bot that posts a QR code by sending many lines of black and white squares. |
| 21:25 | < McMartin> | Font width issues =/ |
| 21:28 | < RichardBarrell> | Trippy. What is it doing? |
| 21:34 | < McMartin> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_cellular_automaton |
| 21:34 | < RichardBarrell> | McMartin: is that running entirely on the CPU or GLSL? |
| 21:34 | < McMartin> | That is not only entirely CPU, it's animating purely with this.invalidate() |
| 21:35 | < McMartin> | And at least on my phone it maintains a solid 50 FPS that way, which is pretty astounding based on expectations from the docs |
| 21:35 | < RichardBarrell> | What is your phone? |
| 21:35 | < RichardBarrell> | This feels like around 16-ish FPS on mine. |
| 21:36 | < McMartin> | HTC Thunderbolt |
| 21:36 | < RichardBarrell> | Mine's a jailbroken Orange San Francisco (rebadged ZTE Blade). I've got a 600MHz ARMv6 chip running Android 2.2. |
| 21:38 | < McMartin> | 1Gz Snapdragon (which is Qualcomm's ARMv7.5 or thereabouts) |
| 21:38 | < McMartin> | (it's v7, but has a bunch of v8 stuff for SIMD too) |
| 21:38 | < RichardBarrell> | Hmm. So we've got identical display resolution, your CPU is about twice as fast as mine (newer version of ARM ABI, you probably have vector instructions?) and you're running Gingerbread which has a more aggressive/clever JIT. |
| 21:39 | < McMartin> | I am running Froyo, not Gingerbread |
| 21:39 | < RichardBarrell> | Ah, okay. |
| 21:39 | < McMartin> | (But yeah, looks like SIMD) |
| 21:40 | < McMartin> | (Also, not v8 stuff, but Cortex-A8-like stuff, I can read honest) |
| 21:40 | < RichardBarrell> | I trust you :) |
| 21:40 | < RichardBarrell> | Except stop saying "SIMD", it's vectorisation. ;) |
| 21:41 | < McMartin> | I'm just quoting the wiki here~ |
| 21:41 | < RichardBarrell> | Actual SIMDs run n-way parallel for some non-fixed n. Vector instructions like SSE run k-way parallel. The name "SSE" is Intel being ballsy with marketing again. :) |
| 21:43 | < RichardBarrell> | Or at least that's the definition that I like best. :) |
| 21:43 | < McMartin> | "The Android operating system, including the Linux kernel, consists of roughly 12 million lines of code including 3 million lines of XML, 2.8 million lines of C, 2.1 million lines of Java, and 1.75 million lines of C++." |
| 21:43 | < McMartin> | More XML than anything else >_< |
| 21:43 | < RichardBarrell> | I sincerely hope that most of that XML is auto-generated. |
| 21:44 | < RichardBarrell> | And, ideally, automatically discarded long before it reaches my actual phone with its masturbatory wanking away of cycles on parsing bloody angle brackets. |
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| 21:46 | < McMartin> | Well, the UI stuff is converted to Java and compiled to Dalvik structures and/or resources. |
| 22:48 | < gnolam> | Mmm, FORTRAN... |
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