code logs -> 2011 -> Sat, 29 Jan 2011< code.20110128.log - code.20110130.log >
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01:36
<@McMartin>
Ah, I7 problem messages
01:36
<@McMartin>
"(Individual words of unquoted text can run up to 92 letters long, in order to allow for the longest recognised place name in the English speaking world: a hill in New Zealand called Taumatawhakatang-ihangakoauauot-amateaturipukaka-pikimaunga-horonuku-pokaiwhenua k-itanatahu. You say tomato, I say taumatawhakatang-...)"
01:39
< Vornicus>
...Someone was having a good time when they wrote that.
01:41
<@ToxicFrog>
92 seems kind of arbitrary.
01:41
<@ToxicFrog>
I mean, I see the reasoning behind it, but why not just say "as long as the runtime can handle" and leave it at that?
01:42
<@ToxicFrog>
What if someone wants to write "Taumatawhakatang-ihangakoauauot-amateaturipukaka-pikimaunga-horonuku-pokaiwhenu ak-itanatahu's" in a sentence?
01:44
< Vornicus>
That i think is "more than a word"
01:45
< Vornicus>
though while we're at it if it's "in a sentence" it's probably quoted.
01:45
< Vornicus>
Which means no complaints.
01:48
< Vornicus>
Frankly I find the usual limit of like 32 characters in many programming languages exorbitant luxury and I rarely go above 20.
01:56
<@McMartin>
Especially given that that's per *word*, not per *identified*
01:57
<@McMartin>
*identifier*, rather
01:57
<@McMartin>
I7 allows multi-word identifiers
01:57
< Vornicus>
Indeed.
01:58
< Vornicus>
And I don't think you'll have multipleTaumatawhakatang-ihangakoauauot-amateaturipukaka-pikimaunga-horonuku-pok aiwhenuak-itanatahus.
01:58
<@McMartin>
And if you do, you can use spaces instead of dashes.
02:00
< Vornicus>
Or just take out the dashes, as wikipedia apparently does.
02:01
<@McMartin>
TF: Also, because the runtime can only handle nine. The source text is a lot more forgiving about identifier length than about parsable word length.
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<@ToxicFrog>
Oh, I missed the "unquoted" part.
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05:41 * McMartin finishes modifying this GM8 project to have a fully configurable set of platformer constants.
05:41
<@McMartin>
There are a distressing number of them.
05:42
<@McMartin>
Run Acceleration, Air Control ("drift") acceleration, Skid deceleration, max fall speed, max horizontal speed while running, drifting, or reversing directions in midair. Gravity before and after a jump completes.
05:43
< Vornicus>
That is a distressing number of constants.
05:43
<@McMartin>
If you allow mobility powerups, they aren't even necessarily constant!
05:44
<@McMartin>
I *think* this project will actually load in the unregistered version, too.
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10:28
<@AnnoDomini>
Does Java have anything like the input validators that I've seen in .NET?
10:38
<@jerith>
What do they look like in .NET?
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12:52
<@AnnoDomini>
jerith: You put some additional objects on the form, define what element they're supposed to watch, what values are unacceptable and what they're supposed to display when something's wrong.
13:15
<@jerith>
Oh, UI stuff.
13:15
<@jerith>
I'm not sure, I actively avoid UIs.
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13:29
<@AnnoDomini>
Looks like I'll have to make it by hand, then.
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16:49
<@Derakon[AFK]>
AnnoDomini: I'm sure there's some web UI framework you can use which has input validators.
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16:49
<@Derakon>
That's one of the things that you get a web framework for after all.
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code logs -> 2011 -> Sat, 29 Jan 2011< code.20110128.log - code.20110130.log >