| --- Log opened Fri Dec 10 00:00:45 2010 |
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| 01:16 | | * ToxicFrog eyes Javascript |
| 01:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | [0] -> true |
| 01:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | [0] && [0] -> false |
| 01:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | [0] == [0] -> false |
| 01:17 | <@Derakoen> | What about [0] === [0]? |
| 01:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | No idea. |
| 01:18 | < JBeshir> | The first two are crazy. |
| 01:19 | < JBeshir> | Last one could be considered an inevitable consequence of permitting == on objects; defining it gets messy. |
| 01:19 | < JBeshir> | (I'm guessing it's doing what Java does?) |
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| 01:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | JBeshir: yeah, the last one isn't a big deal and mimics the behaviour of a lot of other languages where == defaults to compare-by-reference. |
| 01:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | But the first two are crazytown. |
| 01:22 | < JBeshir> | I think I dislike anything with rules more complicated than C's for true/false evaluation |
| 01:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Personally, I dislike it when the language has truth and falsity but no type that expresses that :P |
| 01:23 | < JBeshir> | Oh, I agree there |
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| 02:58 | < Reiv> | JOB INTERVIEW |
| 02:58 | < Reiv> | Time to be confirmed on monday. *runs around in circles, dies* |
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| 05:53 | < froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: http://mithrandi.net/blog/2008/12/javascript-horrors/ |
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| 10:52 | < Rhamphoryncus> | froztbyte: I knew some of those yet it still hurts my brain |
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| 13:57 | < simon__> | froztbyte, I'm reading JavaScript: The Good Parts, and I think JS has a core of which a part of it isn't utterly insane. |
| 13:58 | < simon__> | froztbyte, for example, the book uses === and not ==. kind of like what you ought to be doing in PHP. |
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| 21:46 | < gnolam> | "And so, the JCP is dead... All that remains is a zombie, walking the streets of the Java ecosystem, looking for brains..." |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | Yum, brains |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | At least 1.6 is still uncontrollable. |
| 21:47 | <@jerith> | :-/ |
| 21:48 | <@McMartin> | In other Oracle Bootheel news, the VirtualBox project has a 4.0 Beta out, and it is somehow more OSS-friendly from the changelog. It's a lot easier to mix mods of the OSE with the closed-source components, from what it sounds like. |
| 22:01 | < celticminstrel> | JCP? |
| 22:02 | <@jerith> | Java Community Process. |
| 22:06 | < gnolam> | JCP directives: |
| 22:06 | < gnolam> | 1. Serve the public trust |
| 22:06 | < gnolam> | 2. Protect the innocent |
| 22:06 | < gnolam> | 3. Uphold the law |
| 22:06 | < gnolam> | 4. (CLASSIFIED) |
| 22:07 | < gnolam> | (But really, it's "Do not contradict Oracle" ;-) |
| 22:07 | <@McMartin> | Ha ha ha ha ha |
| 22:07 | <@McMartin> | JIT COMPILERS HAVE A CANCER |
| 22:07 | <@McMartin> | THAT CANCER IS CRIME |
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| --- Log closed Sat Dec 11 00:00:46 2010 |