| --- Log opened Sun Jul 18 00:00:12 2010 |
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| 12:21 | <@jerith> | "Could not open the editor: No editor descriptor for id org.eclipse.jdt.ui.CompilationUnitEditor" |
| 12:21 | <@jerith> | Yeah. Installing a Mercurial plugin can fuck up my editor. |
| 12:21 | <@jerith> | That's some quality software right there. |
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| 13:04 | <@jerith> | So I upgraded Eclipse, which basically involves burning the old one and starting again from scratch. |
| 13:04 | <@jerith> | Why do people put up with this shit? |
| 13:09 | <@jerith> | Yay. Installing stuff (once I've figured out which magic words to click on) pops up a "do you really want to install unsigned plugins?" confirmation box behind the install window. After downloading everything, so it's in the middle of the whole process. |
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| 14:59 | < gnolam> | ... it's Eclipse. |
| 15:47 | < celticminstrel> | Hm? |
| 15:48 | <@jerith> | Eclipse gave me a sad. |
| 15:49 | <@jerith> | Several sads, actually. |
| 15:50 | < celticminstrel> | Aw. |
| 15:53 | <@jerith> | First, it's a pain to manage plugins. |
| 15:54 | <@jerith> | Second, installing a Mercurial plugin made it forget how to give me an editor window. |
| 15:54 | <@jerith> | Third, there's no easy way to upgrade it without blowing it away and starting from scratch with the new version. |
| 15:55 | < celticminstrel> | Really? Huh. I thought it had auto-update. |
| 15:56 | <@jerith> | Fourth (see also: First), there's no easy way to list the plugins that you had installed in the old version. Bonus points for excluding plugins that ship with the actual system. |
| 15:56 | <@jerith> | celticminstrel: It'll instal all the plugins, but 3.5->3.6 (for example) requires replacing the whole damned thing. |
| 15:56 | <@jerith> | Erm, s/instal/autoupdate/ |
| 15:57 | <@jerith> | It *might* have a way to update the base system, but if it does it's even more well-hidden than the "show me the plugins I have installed" thing. |
| 15:58 | <@jerith> | So, three and a half hours later, I'm back at the point I was at before I started. Except I now have a system that isn't obviously broken. |
| 15:59 | <@jerith> | And I probably have a different set of plugins installed, because most of what I added to the new one was guesswork. |
| 16:03 | <@jerith> | *DON'T* give me a thing that looks like a text box unless you're going to let me edit it. |
| 16:04 | <@jerith> | *DON'T* tell me "this page contains invalid values" without telling me what they are. |
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| 17:52 | <@jerith> | https://edge.launchpad.net/hamletirc |
| 17:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Why Hamlet? |
| 17:56 | <@jerith> | 16:12 < jerith> I was thinking about "cybirc", but that's apparently a pr0n site. |
| 17:56 | <@jerith> | 16:12 < mithrandi> jerith: Hamlet |
| 17:56 | <@jerith> | 16:12 < jerith> mithrandi: Why Hamlet? |
| 17:56 | <@jerith> | 16:12 < mithrandi> jerith: absolutely no reason, it's the first random thing that popped into my head |
| 17:57 | <@TheWatcher> | Heh, fair enough :) |
| 17:57 | <@jerith> | Maybe I should add that to the FAQ. |
| 18:05 | < simon_> | did you find a java IRC library? |
| 18:06 | < simon_> | isn't there something like twisted/POE for java? |
| 18:06 | <@jerith> | I'm using IRClib provisionally. I still need to see if it's actually suitable or if I need to write one that fits Dalvik/Android better. |
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| 23:06 | <@McMartin> | Oh. Oh. Suddenly much becomes clear. |
| 23:06 | < gnolam> | ? |
| 23:06 | <@McMartin> | "jeroid" is jerith operating an Android device |
| 23:06 | | * McMartin missed where that was actually explained. |
| 23:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | jeroid is like jerith, but not. |
| 23:08 | <@McMartin> | The Enrichment Center reminds you that Android Hell is a real place where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance |
| 23:15 | | * McMartin also keeps seeing "Dalvik" in scrollback and reading it at "Dalek" |
| 23:16 | <@McMartin> | (< Nickserv> AUTHENTICATE! AUTHENTICATE!) |
| 23:18 | <@McMartin> | Oh hey, Fedora 13 came out when I wasn't paying attention |
| 23:20 | < gnolam> | Heh. |
| 23:21 | <@TheWatcher> | ... it's a damned good job I don't have access to nightstar's services source >.> |
| 23:23 | <@McMartin> | "The gdb debugger has been extended so that it can report detailed information on the internals of the Python 2 and Python 3 runtimes. Backtraces involving Python will now by default show mixed C and Python-level information on what such processes are doing, without requiring expertise in the use of gdb." |
| 23:24 | <@McMartin> | ! |
| 23:24 | <@McMartin> | And Haskell can now do non-statically-linked libraries because F13 ships with libhaskell |
| 23:24 | <@McMartin> | sold~ |
| 23:26 | <@McMartin> | TheWatcher: Surely a properly written service would get its text strings from some language file, right? |
| 23:26 | <@McMartin> | What's the iso 3-letter code for English (Dalek dialect variant)? |
| 23:27 | <@Vornicus> | There isn't one, it's four letters. |
| 23:28 | <@Vornicus> | ...speaking of which, where can I find EXTERMINATE? |
| 23:29 | <@Vornicus> | (the IF) |
| 23:29 | <@McMartin> | http://parchment.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/parchment.html?story=http%3A//hkn.eecs .berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/if/games/js/Exterminate.zblorb.js |
| 23:29 | <@McMartin> | Or http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mcmartin/if/games/bin/Exterminate.zblorb if you just want the datafile, but the prior link will let you play online |
| 23:30 | | * Vornicus just wanted to check the existence of a verb. Which apparently it does not recognize! |
| 23:30 | <@Vornicus> | "PONTIFICATE" |
| 23:31 | <@McMartin> | Indeed |
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| --- Log closed Mon Jul 19 00:00:13 2010 |