code logs -> 2010 -> Sat, 12 Jun 2010< code.20100611.log - code.20100613.log >
--- Log opened Sat Jun 12 00:00:32 2010
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03:24
< celticminstrel>
... wait, what exactly does 'bg' do?
03:25
<@Vornicus>
context?
03:29
< celticminstrel>
bash
03:31
<@Vornicus>
ah
03:31
<@Vornicus>
It backgrounds processes.
03:32
<@Vornicus>
...actually that's not a very good description, is it.
03:39
< celticminstrel>
See, I was under the impression that it merely showed which processes are in the background.
03:39
< celticminstrel>
Obviously, I was wrong.
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05:30
<@ToxicFrog>
celticminstrel: 'jobs' lists all jobs.
05:30
<@ToxicFrog>
'bg' moves a suspended job to the background.
05:30
<@ToxicFrog>
'fg' moves a suspended or backgrounded job to the foreground.
05:31
< celticminstrel>
So, if I don't include >/dev/null, will something bad happen when I disown it and close the shell?
05:56
<@ToxicFrog>
No idea.
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07:20
< McMartin>
Woo, cleared Metatron
07:20
< McMartin>
Or so it seems, anyway
07:36
< Tarinaky>
<celticminstrel> So, if I don't include >/dev/null, will something bad happen when I disown it and close the shell? << If you want it to continue after the terminal is closed you need nohup.
07:36
< Tarinaky>
Oh wait. He's offline :/
07:36
< Tarinaky>
Damnit. >.<
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17:08
< celticminstrel>
So, is there any way to get a list of services other than doing /ison with a list of common services?
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17:18
< Namegduf>
celticminstrel: Even if you could list them, you've no guarantee for what syntax their commands take.
17:18
< Namegduf>
Basically, "no".
17:18
< celticminstrel>
True, that.
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19:44
< celticminstrel>
Hm. What's a typical length for the :nick!user@host prefix?
19:44
<@AnnoDomini>
Less than 100 characters.
19:45
< celticminstrel>
Is that a restriction, then?
19:45
<@AnnoDomini>
No.
19:45
< celticminstrel>
'kay
19:45
<@AnnoDomini>
The total line of identified plus message is 512.
19:45
<@AnnoDomini>
*identifier
19:45
< celticminstrel>
I know.
19:46
<@AnnoDomini>
I just set the maximum message length to 400 and like it.
19:46
< celticminstrel>
Like what now?
19:46
< Namegduf>
It.
19:46
<@AnnoDomini>
Precisely.
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20:11
<@ToxicFrog>
Cairo \o/
20:41
< McMartin>
?
20:47
<@ToxicFrog>
I have found out that I can replace the SDL-based frontend for felt with a GTK-based one, using Cairo for the actual graphics part.
20:48
<@ToxicFrog>
Which unlike GtkCanvas is actually useful.
20:48
<@ToxicFrog>
This gives me things like menus, and multiple windows.
20:53
< McMartin>
Definite plus.
20:54
<@jerith>
\o/
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23:08 * Derakon mutters at PyFTGL and Boost.
23:08
< Derakon>
I've installed Boost, but PyFTGL won't build because it can't find boost/python.hpp, which boost, according to OSX's file-search utility, hasn't installed anywhere in /usr.
23:09
< Derakon>
...though the file-search utility could be smoking crack.
23:10
< Namegduf>
You mean the file search utility part of the Finder-stuff that pretends /usr doesn't exist?
23:11
< Derakon>
No, because it's found things in there before.
23:11
< Derakon>
I suspect it just hasn't updated its index or something similar.
23:11
< Namegduf>
Ah.
23:11
< Derakon>
The "find" command located it fine though. I'd not used it previously because I feared it would take a very long time, but I guess /usr is smaller than I thought it was.
23:15
< Derakon>
I am seriously wondering if I oughtn't just make my own goddamned font-rendering engine. I don't think it'd be anywhere near as painful as building this.
23:18
< Derakon>
Right, that's it, PyFTGL can go fuck itself. Time to do this myself.
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23:31
< Derakon>
...no, this is harder than I thought it'd be.
23:31
< Derakon>
Goddammit, you wouldn't think rendering fonts in OpenGL would be a big deal!
23:32
<@AnnoDomini>
IIRC, everything in OpenGL is a big deal.
23:33
< celticminstrel>
I don't really understand what use the 'find' command is... every time I've used it I piped the output through grep anyway.
23:35
< Derakon>
Find is for when you want to look for files that match particular characteristics. Grep is for when you want to find particular contents of files.
23:35
< Derakon>
grep can't search by filename, or by modification date, and so on.
23:35
< Derakon>
It's also hideously inefficient if you don't actually care about the file contents.
23:36
< celticminstrel>
It's probably because I have no clue how to use it (and the man page isn't particularly useful), but I could never get find to do anything more than just print out a list of the full paths of all files in the specified directory (recursively, as I recall).
23:36
< Derakon>
find . -name "*py"
23:36
< Derakon>
That finds all files whose names end in "py".
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