| --- Log opened Mon Mar 08 00:00:21 2010 |
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| 08:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Reason #17 to use UTF-8 everywhere: files with multiple encodings |
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| 08:14 | < Rhamphoryncus> | awesome. SHIFT-JIS is an ascii superset except for \ and ~. Good thing those never get used in sourcecode |
| 08:17 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Fortunately that's why C invented ??/ and ??- |
| 08:38 | < Rhamphoryncus> | One function, 1400 lines.. |
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| 12:29 | | * Bobsentme doesn't even know what to say to Rhamphoryncus |
| 12:30 | < Rhamphoryncus> | :) |
| 12:30 | < Bobsentme> | I mean...sorry just doesn't cut it. Do they make hall mark cards for issues like that? "Sorry someone screwed up the code!" |
| 12:30 | < Bobsentme> | So, whatcha working on? |
| 12:32 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I was trying to decipher some game mechanics for The Mana World's server |
| 12:32 | < Rhamphoryncus> | After a few hours I pieced the mechanics together, only to find they showed a 50x difference between two items I'm comparing, when empirically it's only a 10% difference |
| 12:33 | < Bobsentme> | oi. |
| 12:33 | < Bobsentme> | That must have been a PITA tofigure out |
| 12:34 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Yup |
| 12:35 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Thing is, the server is bodged from another game. They're making a new server, but it's not done yet |
| 12:35 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Of course 99% of comments are in japanese |
| 12:36 | <@TheWatcher> | .. ow |
| 12:36 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Names are in english, sorta. Not very descriptive |
| 12:36 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Lots of things use defines for constants, but not everything |
| 12:37 | < Rhamphoryncus> | At least one point hardcoded 16 as a threshold somewhere, while the other half of it used 0x9, 0x10, 0x11... |
| 12:37 | < Rhamphoryncus> | err wait, I think it was 0xf, 0x10, 0x11 |
| 12:38 | < Rhamphoryncus> | *checks* nope. It 0x0 through 0x10 are copied from another source. 0x11 through 0x16 (heh) are the hardcoded ones |
| 12:39 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 12:41 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Note, the 16 in decimal is a threshold, NOT a limit. It's the switchover to another kind of handling. That's what those hardcoded values are for. And it's a <= 16 test, so it's not an off-by-one |
| 12:41 | < Rhamphoryncus> | The code is correct, just hideous |
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| 13:09 | < Tarinaky> | So the Dragon book was finally recalled. |
| 13:10 | < Tarinaky> | Had to walk up to the library to return it and then check out a different edition of it :/ |
| 13:29 | < Rhamphoryncus> | awww |
| 13:33 | < Tarinaky> | Annoying but there you go. Glad my Uni had got some more copies in. |
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| 22:20 | <@Derakon> | Guten tag. |
| 22:20 | | * McMartin hunts wumpuses while his code compiles. |
| 22:20 | <@Derakon> | Quick question, folks: anyone know of any utilities for performing diagnostics on a computer's clock/CPU? |
| 22:20 | <@Derakon> | Or is the assumption that if your computer's clock is irregular then you're pretty well fucked anyway? |
| 22:21 | <@McMartin> | Most hardware has dynamic CPU scaling, so that assumption would be Bad |
| 22:21 | <@Derakon> | (We have a computer that's intended to regulate timing of various hardware components; it's sending the same signal to multiple components at the same wrong time) |
| 22:21 | <@McMartin> | My first guess is something like x86memtest would do this too |
| 22:21 | <@McMartin> | Even though it's usually a RAM tester |
| 22:21 | <@Derakon> | (I suspect that the problem is a timer on the card that is sending the signals, but it could be the main computer's CPU too) |
| 22:22 | <@Derakon> | s/timer/clock/ |
| 22:23 | <@Derakon> | I can give memtest a shot. |
| 22:23 | <@AnnoDomini> | McMartin: Extinctionist? :P |
| 22:24 | <@McMartin> | No, the actual original one from the old Creative Computing source |
| 22:30 | < Bobsentme> | Silly question: Are you sure it's not a bad cmos battery? |
| 22:32 | <@Vornicus> | ...oh, that'd be a good one. CMOS battery death can cause 57 varieties of silly. Easy to fix, too. |
| 22:34 | < Bobsentme> | Brother of mine was taking a test for his certification for appliance repair. The only appliance he failed to fix had a bad mainboard / battery that kept throwing errors stating everything but that piece was bad. |
| 22:34 | <@Derakon> | Oh, dangit, this computer's DVD drive appears to have failed. >.< |
| 22:35 | <@Derakon> | Bobsentme: AFAICT the computer appears to be fine aside from throwing spurious timings when we try to use it to run an experiment. |
| 22:35 | <@Derakon> | Well, and aside from its DVD drive having failed. ?.? |
| 22:38 | <@Derakon> | Push the eject button, light on the drive comes on...10-15 seconds later light goes off, without ever opening the bay. |
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| 22:39 | <@Derakon> | Open it manually, put a disc in, close it manually, light on the drive blinks, disc is never recognized by the computer (and I don't hear it spin up). |
| 22:45 | < Bobsentme> | My last computer's DVD drive had the same issue. When it did read a disk, it actually locked up the computer, whether booting off a ubuntu cd or trying to read one in windows. |
| 22:45 | < Bobsentme> | ie: Yeah, it's hosed. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | Fortunately we don't actually need the DVD drive in general use. |
| 22:54 | <@Derakon> | Heck, most of the time we don't even have KVM attached to it. |
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