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| 17:27 | < MyCatVerbs> | Quiet room. |
| 17:28 | < MyCatVerbs> | Is anyone awake? If so, how've you doing? |
| 17:38 | <@GiantDemon> | *how're |
| 17:39 | <@GiantDemon> | And fine, thanks. |
| 18:13 | < MyCatVerbs> | GiantDemon: thanks, didn't spot that. Glad to hear it, by the way. |
| 18:13 | < MyCatVerbs> | Hang on, do I know you? Your nick isn't familiar and I thought I knew more or less everyone on nightstar. >. |
| 18:15 | | * GiantDemon == AnnoDomini. |
| 18:16 | < MyCatVerbs> | Ahhh, I see. |
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| 21:46 | < takyoji> | Do ISPs usually block port 8080? |
| 21:46 | < Kyrre> | Not usually no. |
| 21:47 | < takyoji> | Because I'm having trouble trying to make apache accessible from outside of my LAN |
| 21:47 | < takyoji> | Well, my test server basically |
| 21:47 | < takyoji> | I've set inbound and outbound exceptions for port 8080 on my router, told Apache to listen to port 8080, and made a firewall exception for apache and port 8080 |
| 21:48 | < takyoji> | Still fails to be accessible |
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| 21:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | Sure you're forwarding it to the right system through the router? |
| 21:56 | < takyoji_> | Ironically it just suddenly works now out of complete randomness from not doing anything |
| 21:56 | < takyoji_> | And I do have it forwarding the requests properly |
| 21:56 | < takyoji_> | So I suppose port 8080 is actually blocked on my ISP since port 555 works instead |
| 22:45 | < takyoji_> | I'm just curious but how does somebody point a domain? |
| 22:46 | < takyoji_> | It requires a name server, right? |
| 22:46 | < takyoji_> | I'm not all that brilliant with hosting. |
| 22:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | Typically you don't run the nameserver yourself |
| 22:47 | < Kyrre> | There are lots of free nameserver, the catch is that people have to use them. |
| 22:48 | < takyoji_> | Then with a nameserver you do what? |
| 22:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Rather, you find a domain name registrar, and pay them to register the domain name you want, and it does into the nameserver tree pointing at the address you specified. |
| 22:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | There are also various free services such as dyndns.org for registering subdomains. |
| 22:49 | < takyoji_> | And the nameserver manages where requests are pointed to, from a specific domain, right? |
| 22:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...rephrase the question? |
| 22:50 | < takyoji_> | Yea |
| 22:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | A nameserver converts hostnames into IP addresses. |
| 22:50 | < takyoji_> | ahh |
| 22:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Or, if it can't, forwards requests to one that can. |
| 22:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Thus, if you enter, say, www.nightstar.net, you end up querying your local DNS server, which comes up with 216.201.150.40, which you can then connect to. |
| 22:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | But, yes, as Kyrre said, just running your own DNS server isn't enough. |
| 22:52 | < takyoji_> | ahh |
| 22:53 | | * Kyrre = Serah. |
| 22:53 | | * Kyrre pounces on ToxicFrog and snuggles him mercilessly. |
| 22:54 | < takyoji_> | If you ran your own DNS, it would only work in you LAN and people would have to set that custom DNS as their preferred DNS server, right? |
| 22:54 | < Kyrre> | Yes. |
| 22:54 | < takyoji_> | ahh |
| 22:54 | < Kyrre> | It MIGHT work remotely too, if properly set up. |
| 22:54 | < Kyrre> | People would still have to set it as their alternate DNS server or something. |
| 22:54 | < Kyrre> | Which doesn't really serve your purpose, you'll be better off just using the IP as the domain name then. |
| 22:55 | < Kyrre> | Saves people to change their settings. |
| 22:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | eek |
| 22:56 | | * ToxicFrog snuggles Serah |
| 22:56 | < takyoji_> | I was just curious if it was possible for kicks |
| 22:57 | < takyoji_> | Like for April Fools things... |
| 22:57 | < Kyrre> | It is. |
| 22:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | Uh, yeaaaah, we call those "DNS poisoning attacks" and people tend to frown on them. |
| 22:57 | < takyoji_> | Run a DNS which it would have google.com or something registered to something different. |
| 22:57 | < Kyrre> | Set your own DNS as the primary DNS and you can turn Google into whatever you want. |
| 22:58 | < takyoji_> | heh yea |
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| 22:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anyways. It can be useful to have something like a person cacheing nameserver or dnsmasq daemon, say so that you can use both the ICANN servers and the openNIC ones. |
| 22:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | But that won't affect the rest of the world. |
| 23:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | If all you're after is a convenient name to refer to your IP by and don't actually need a second level domain, you can use something like dyndns, and get an address like takyoji.dyndns.org |
| 23:00 | < takyoji_> | Yea that's what my first idea was |
| 23:01 | < takyoji_> | Otherwise I have a few unused domains for a different server that I thought I could just use |
| 23:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Well, if you've actually registered those domains, it should just be a matter of telling the registrar to point them at the new IP, I think |
| 23:03 | < takyoji_> | My only option I have with it is to point it to a nameserver |
| 23:04 | <@gnolam> | Usually provided by your web host, unless the server is yours. |
| 23:06 | < takyoji_> | I have a shared server |
| 23:06 | < takyoji_> | Which is what the unused domains are for |
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| --- Log opened Mon Sep 03 23:45:35 2007 |
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