code logs -> 2007 -> Thu, 08 Feb 2007< code.20070207.log - code.20070209.log >
--- Log opened Thu Feb 08 00:00:07 2007
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02:36
< Janus>
Interestingly enough, you can't reduce the size of a .zip file by archiving it in another .zip file.
02:36 * Janus is foiled yet again.
02:39
<@McMartin>
You can bzip2 the zip file
02:39
<@McMartin>
It still won't help much.
02:39
<@McMartin>
Generally, compression techniques produce incompressible files.
02:40
<@McMartin>
This is also why when zipping mp3s or oggs you want to make it just store them
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03:04 Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus
03:21
<@ToxicFrog>
In which case you might as well just tar them.
03:22 * Vornicus randomly recalls the easter egg level in Marathon Infinity.
03:23
< Vornicus>
Get the two hex dumps, one in the first level and one in the second, concatenate them, turn them to binary, unzip twice.
03:26
< Vornicus>
rather, not the second, but the last.
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03:36
<@McMartin>
How does one "Get hex dumps"?
03:39
<@ToxicFrog>
They're in hidden terminals.
03:42
<@McMartin>
Right, but I mean, you have to copy them down by hand, or do they save files to your disk?
03:44
<@ToxicFrog>
You copy them down by hand, except that if you have the knowledge necessary to turn them into a map file, you probably also have the knowledge to rip the hex dumps right out of the game's resource fork.
03:45
<@McMartin>
How large a file are we talking here?
03:45
<@ToxicFrog>
Umm. Ten pages or so?
03:47
< Vornicus>
3,400 hex characters in the first half
03:49
<@McMartin>
Thus, large enough that you may as well rip the fork instead of searching for the terminals.
03:52
< Vornicus>
yeah
03:53
< Vornicus>
not that that was hard - it was just text data in the resource form.
03:53
< Vornicus>
fork*
03:53
<@McMartin>
Also, to spread the pain
03:53
<@McMartin>
Observe, my lord, that I am in ur base / forthwith engaged in killin all ur d00dz
03:54
< Vornicus>
o...kay.
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< timelady>
hail comrade
06:12 * Vornicus wavels
06:12
< timelady>
argh!
06:12
< timelady>
ive been wavel'd
06:13 * Reiver greet("timelady");
06:13
< timelady>
with text_io;use text_io;
06:14
< timelady>
begin;
06:14
< timelady>
print ("Hello Reiver);
06:14
< timelady>
end;
06:14
< timelady>
oops begin hello;
06:14
<@Reiver>
AGH
06:14 * Reiver screams and dies.
06:14
< timelady>
ada!
06:15
<@Reiver>
Sometimes you scare me.
06:15 * Reiver nods sagely.
06:15 mode/#code [+oooooo EvilDarkLord gnolam MyCatSleeps Serah-Lost timelady UndeadAnno] by Reiver
06:15
<@timelady>
thats good:)
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06:15
<@timelady>
schlock! one of my fave john landis films!
06:16
<@timelady>
brb, hunting for that to *ahm* view
06:16
< Vornicus>
Schlock is actually from Schlock Mercenary.
06:16
<@timelady>
people, you know NOT what you miss if you dont see this film:)
06:16
<@timelady>
funny:)
06:17 * Reiver wonders if timelady would be the sort to enjoy the comic strip.
06:17
<@timelady>
the comic strip presents?
06:18
<@timelady>
five go mad in dorset type the comic strip presents?:)
06:18
<@Reiver>
www.schlockmercenary.com
06:18
< Vornicus>
"Intense attack on internet root servers, no one notices"
06:20
<@timelady>
hehe look, a flying soldier isNOT a good indicator of cheery times ahead:)
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07:09
<@Reiver>
http://southernmyst.livejournal.com/39525.html?
07:09
<@Reiver>
http://southernmyst.livejournal.com/39525.html
07:12
<@McMartin>
Answered.
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08:22
<@Reiver>
Excelent!
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< MyCatVerbs>
Whaaoooo. CLISP rocks.
14:22
< MyCatVerbs>
That's the fastest I've ever seen a P4 fall over and shit itself in my life =D
14:22
< MyCatVerbs>
All your CPU and swap space are belong to us.
14:22
< MyCatVerbs>
Cons rush, kekekee! =D
14:26
<@gnolam>
Ugh. CLISP.
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14:33
< MyCatVerbs>
(setq x '(a b c)) (rplacd (cddr x) (x)) <--- according to the book I have lying around here, should make a circular list. According to "I just tried it", fucks the computer sideways.
14:34
<@ToxicFrog>
Sounds like a bug in the CLISP terp.
14:34
< MyCatVerbs>
Wait, that doesn't work. Argh, function namespacing error?
14:35
< MyCatVerbs>
Ah, there we are. (setq x '(a b c)) (setq m (cddr x)) (rplacd m x)
14:36
< MyCatVerbs>
Aaaand I might just get to see Linux's OOM killer firing itself off in a few moments now.
14:37
< MyCatVerbs>
No? Okay, but the hard disk light on this thing just turned from blinking to solid. That and X11's now slower than boiled ass.
14:39
<@ToxicFrog>
It's hitting swap.
14:39 * ToxicFrog mocks
14:40
< MyCatVerbs>
Funnily enough the LISP interpreter seems to hold on to all that swapspace and RAM even after I -HUP it by xkilling the terminal.
14:40
< MyCatVerbs>
I have to hit up another xterm and kill -9 the greedy mofo.
14:41
< MyCatVerbs>
Good stress test for the memory manager, though. Hot damn does Linux ever pick itself back up quickly afterwards.
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<@ToxicFrog>
Bah, there's no good type for map chunks.
15:54
<@ToxicFrog>
That is to say, the "map" data type is used for every single chunk that contains map related data.
15:56
< Vornicus>
ew
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<@ToxicFrog>
This means everything from the object xref table (two interwoven linked lists) to the tile map (a 64x64 array of structs) any everything in between.
16:01
< Vornicus>
ew and a half.
16:02
< MyCatVerbs>
?
16:02
< Vornicus>
He's working on SS1Edit.
16:02
< Vornicus>
It is apparently horrid.
16:03
< MyCatVerbs>
Hey, cool. Random student ID audit by the porters.
16:03
< MyCatVerbs>
Hard-looking people in donkey jackets. Hrmn.
16:04
<@ToxicFrog>
Well, I'm working on my general purpose SS1 map/resource libraries.
16:04
<@ToxicFrog>
Upon which SS1Edit is built.
16:05
< MyCatVerbs>
Hrmn. I wonder how many cycles exp(x) burns on a machine with a good FPU these days.
16:08
<@jerith>
SS1?
16:08
<@jerith>
System Shock?
16:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Once the resource library is finished, I can build the map library on top of that; and once the map library is finished, the annotated map generator is a relatively simple program.
16:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Yes.
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< MyCatVerbs>
'lo Mahal.
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code logs -> 2007 -> Thu, 08 Feb 2007< code.20070207.log - code.20070209.log >