| --- Log opened Mon Dec 04 00:00:22 2006 |
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| 02:23 | | * Janus made his first, fully operation, deployable, enjoyable program! |
| 02:27 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Congratulations. |
| 02:27 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | What's it do? |
| 02:27 | < MyCatOwnz> | Compute tea. |
| 02:32 | < Janus> | On top of that, it also reads a few .txt files with some survey results, and outputs their results in a new .txt file. It takes only 4 commands as well. |
| 02:36 | | * Janus learned many things while doing this. Namely, memset() doesn't work on integer arrays, '/n' is used quite frequently, and fprintf() was made by God, right after he created the kittens and ice-cream. |
| 02:41 | | MyCatOwnz is now known as MyCatBreaksHisComputer |
| 02:44 | | * Vornicus-Latens is learning Ruby database bindings and web services. |
| 02:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...memset() does so work on integer arrays. |
| 02:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | And it's \n |
| 02:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Not /n |
| 02:51 | < Janus> | Alright, I typoed the '\n', but I'll fight you to the death over memset(). D: |
| 02:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | Look, I've used it. A lot. It works on integer arrays. |
| 02:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | If it's not working, than either you aren't using it correctly, the implementation your system provides doesn't work (and I don't know of any systems where this is the case; even windows has a working memset()), or it is working but not in the way you expect it to. |
| 02:54 | < Janus> | All I'm wary is that where I used it, works only when replaced with a simple for(...){that[n] = 0;} And the way it was utilized was "memset(that, 0, 256);" |
| 02:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | This is an array of int? |
| 02:55 | < Janus> | Yes. |
| 02:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | You need memset(that, 0, sizeof(int)*256) |
| 02:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | The size argument is in bytes, not in array elements. |
| 02:56 | < Janus> | ... |
| 02:56 | < Janus> | Oh. |
| 02:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | If your array elements are larger than one byte - and ints, on modern systems, are 4 bytes each - you need to multiply the number of array elements by the size of the type in order to get the number of bytes. |
| 02:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | "The memset() function fills the first n bytes of the memory area pointed to by s with the constant byte c." |
| 02:57 | | * Janus is dragged from the arena, battered and bruised. |
| 03:00 | < Janus> | My apoligies then, I should have read the description more carefully, that that would explain why the first fourth of the array was initialized while the rest wasn't. |
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| 04:10 | | * Vornicus-Latens tries to figure out the schema for trades |
| 04:13 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | an individual trade targets many players, and many resources. |
| 04:15 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | The resources of a trade can be considered as positive and negative numbers for each resource - the initiator of a trade gets the numbers added to his resources, the other gets them subtracted |
| 04:28 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | An individual trade can be: accepted, rejected, withdrawn, failed because of lack of resources, or accepted by a different offeree. |
| 04:31 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | rejection or failure of a trade offer with an individual offeree does not affect the state of the trade with others; withdrawal of a trade offer makes it so no offeree can accept it; accepting an offer makes the offer be withdrawn from other offerees. |
| 04:33 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...this appears to be actually the most complicated part of the whole trade thing. |
| 04:34 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | or, rather, of the whole schema |
| 04:38 | | * Vornicus-Latens fiddles |
| 04:43 | | ReivWork is now known as Reiver |
| 04:56 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | okay, that looks almost right. |
| 05:41 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | almost. |
| 05:47 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | gnar. |
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| 07:44 | | * Reiver frowns at math. |
| 07:44 | <@Reiver> | I have an image of 45.1 x 297.2 cm; 17.8 x 117.0 inches. |
| 07:45 | <@Reiver> | If one were to scale it so it's X axis were equivalent to an A4 page in portrait, how many pages would it take up vertically? |
| 07:45 | <@Reiver> | I think I keep getting my scaling wrong. |
| 07:46 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | 4.6 |
| 07:46 | <@Reiver> | |
| 07:46 | <@Reiver> | I got 7.2. |
| 07:46 | <@Reiver> | I did something wrong didn't I? |
| 07:46 | <@Reiver> | >.> |
| 07:47 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | yep |
| 07:47 | <@Reiver> | Right. |
| 07:47 | <@Reiver> | Thanks! |
| 07:47 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | anyway, an A-ratio'd page k inches wide is k*sqrt(2) inches tall |
| 07:48 | <@Reiver> | ...I did not know that. |
| 07:48 | <@Reiver> | This is good to know. Thankye! |
| 07:48 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Same is true of B-ratio and C-ratio. |
| 07:48 | <@Reiver> | (This is why two A-ratio pages side by side are the same size as one A-ratio page one size bigger? |
| 07:48 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Yep |
| 07:49 | <@Reiver> | This was done, perchance, on purpose? |
| 07:49 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Yep. |
| 07:49 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | An paper has area 1/(2**n) square meters |
| 07:49 | <@Reiver> | To facilitate ease of making books etc, via the simple application of folding one-size-large in half after stapling in the middle? |
| 07:49 | <@Reiver> | ...OK |
| 07:51 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | And Bn paper has short side length 1/(sqrt(2)**n) |
| 07:52 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | And Cn paper is just wacky, it's the geometric mean of An and Bn of the same size. |
| 07:53 | <@Reiver> | What, exactly, made them leap up into the air wild-eyed, and decide suddenly to base the size of paper on mathematical concepts and formula? |
| 07:53 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...dude, have you /seen/ american paper sizes? |
| 07:54 | <@Reiver> | I take it the american ones don't follow any useful standard? |
| 07:55 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | There are /three/ paper sizes that are /approximately/ A4. |
| 07:55 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | ...correction, /four/ |
| 07:55 | <@Reiver> | So they decided to set a standard. |
| 07:56 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Let us praise the inventors of A-series paper for being /sane/! |
| 07:56 | <@Reiver> | And if they were gonna make a standard, they may as well make it based off the beauty of mathematical formulae, applied to an arbitary metric unit, yes? :) |
| 07:56 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Yes. |
| 07:57 | <@Reiver> | Clearly a mathematician proposed it. |
| 07:57 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | You don't need to know much math to do this. |
| 07:57 | <@Reiver> | No-one else would think to use 1/$number for such things, and would likely have taken something far more sane like "1.5x the height of the width". >.> |
| 07:58 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Plenty of people would. You ever had to blow up a photo? |
| 07:59 | <@Reiver> | No. |
| 07:59 | <@Reiver> | But go on. |
| 08:00 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | The point of all the sizes being like this is that this way they're all the same ratio, and you don't have to think to change the size. |
| 08:00 | <@Reiver> | Wouldn't, say, 1:1.5 also maintain a similar ratio as it scaled up? |
| 08:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | If you try to blow up an 8.5x11 picture onto an 11x17 thing, you stretch it by about 20%. |
| 08:01 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | If you try to blow up an A4 picture onto an A3, you don't stretch it. |
| 08:01 | <@Reiver> | 2x3 does not scale to a 4x6? |
| 08:02 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | /and/ two A4s fit neatly onto an A3. |
| 08:02 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | 2x3 /does/ scale to 4x6, it does /not/ scale to 3x4 |
| 08:02 | <@Reiver> | ...Why would you expect it to scale to 3x4? |
| 08:02 | <@Reiver> | That seems an odd size to scale things up by? |
| 08:03 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | Because that is what A-series allows you to do - to double the area of a page without changing the ratio. |
| 08:03 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | or halve it. |
| 08:03 | <@Reiver> | Ah, double the area. |
| 08:03 | <@Reiver> | OK. |
| 08:05 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
| 08:16 | <@Vornicus> | http://www.boingboing.net/2006/12/03/jewelry_for_geek_gir.html <--- more awesome earrings. |
| 08:16 | <@Vornicus> | (and, yes, it is apropos to this channel.) |
| 08:19 | <@Reiver> | ...Yes. Yes it is. |
| 08:19 | | * Reiver approve! |
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| 14:35 | < Fish> | HILFE HILFE! |
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| 15:36 | < Fish> | I need help configurating apache for subdomains. |
| 15:37 | <@David> | You've tried Google? http://content.websitegear.com/article/subdomain_setup.htm |
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| 20:14 | <@Vornicus> | ...well that's kinda random. |
| 20:14 | <@Vornicus> | adduser goes "blarg", and says that it failed and so forth... |
| 20:14 | <@Vornicus> | but the user it failed to create now exists. |
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| 22:05 | | * Janus has balanced the farm entirely on the positive vibes between a New Yorkian and a Chicago Cubs Fan. |
| 22:06 | < Janus> | I'll edit and debug using Visual Studio... and compile using Dev-Cpp, which are now seated snuggly together in the same directory~ |
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| 23:57 | < Janus> | Um... may I ask a small .exe question, please? |
| 23:58 | < Janus> | The game, when I go to execute it, it works hunky-dorry the way through. However, when I attempt to shut it down (e.g. cut out of the game loop), it strangely... restartes from the very beginning again. |
| --- Log closed Tue Dec 05 00:00:22 2006 |