| --- Log opened Thu Jul 27 00:00:46 2006 |
| 05:34 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 06:23 | | ReivClass is now known as Reiver |
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| 06:47 | | Chalcy is now known as Chalcedon |
| 07:04 | | Chalcedon is now known as Forj |
| 07:04 | | Forj is now known as Chalcedon |
| 07:17 | | Chalcedon is now known as Forj |
| 07:17 | | Forj is now known as Chalcedon |
| 08:24 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[afk] |
| 08:41 | <@Chalcedon> | What happened to Vorn at anyrate |
| 08:54 | <@Reiver> | He moved to Utah. |
| 08:54 | <@Reiver> | He hasn't got his internet set up there, yet. |
| 08:55 | <@Chalcedon> | ahhhh.... did he get a job there? |
| 08:56 | <@Reiver> | He did! |
| 08:56 | <@Reiver> | He is now working for a Chalain, whom you have not met, but is an extremely... interesting person. |
| 09:06 | | EvilDarkLord [althalas@Nightstar-17046.a80-186-184-83.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #code |
| 09:06 | <@Chalcedon> | interesting? |
| 09:07 | | * EvilDarkLord eyes, waves. |
| 09:07 | <@Reiver> | Hihi. |
| 09:07 | <@Reiver> | If you're a coder, it may be worth hanging around. |
| 09:08 | <@Reiver> | If not, you're going to be bored outta your mind. ;) |
| 09:09 | < EvilDarkLord> | I kinda figured that would be the case. I'm a coder newbie, so I may occasionally provide stupid questions to poke fun at =) |
| 09:09 | <@Reiver> | Ah, those are welcome. |
| 09:09 | <@Reiver> | Chalcedon is also learning, and I am... |
| 09:09 | < EvilDarkLord> | Is the focus on the channel on some specific language? |
| 09:09 | | * Chalcedon waves |
| 09:09 | <@Chalcedon> | nope |
| 09:09 | <@Reiver> | A modestly experinced coder who is so rusty that he's forgotten all the syntax and half the principles. >.< |
| 09:10 | | * Reiver is currently learning Java, and how to do OO programming /properly/. :) |
| 09:10 | | * EvilDarkLord is just finishing up Java 101, take two. This time actually reading the course material properly. |
| 09:11 | <@Chalcedon> | initially we were discussing Python, but TF regularly rants about Lua, and I'm sure other stuff has come up, I just didn't pay attention |
| 09:11 | <@Reiver> | *snrk* |
| 09:12 | <@Reiver> | Speaking of which, I need to buy that text book. |
| 09:12 | <@Chalcedon> | and as a total newbie, I've found that people here are helpful and friendly, though may get slightly irritated if you ask /really/ dumb questions |
| 09:14 | <@Reiver> | Yes. Thinking about the question first - and trying to look things up on google - helps. |
| 09:19 | < EvilDarkLord> | I'm guessing I won't have a lot of questions yet that the course material and Google can't answer, but it could be interesting to see what kind of things people talk about. Is there much activity here? |
| 09:19 | <@Chalcedon> | it depends |
| 09:20 | <@Chalcedon> | initially lots and lots, recently not so much because people often aren't in the same place at the same time? |
| 09:20 | <@Chalcedon> | -er- -? |
| 09:22 | <@Reiver> | There tends to be a lot of backscroll-chat. |
| 09:22 | <@Reiver> | AKA: Folks will ask something, a few hours later someone knowedgeable will wander in, see the question in the backscroll, and start replying. :) |
| 09:47 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[wr0k] |
| 09:51 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Reiver: which textbook? |
| 09:52 | <@Reiver> | TW: Head First Java, apparently. |
| 09:52 | <@Reiver> | I need it mostly because 97% of the slides the lecturer uses are, uh, out of the textbook. |
| 09:52 | <@Reiver> | Ergo. |
| 09:52 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | -_- |
| 09:53 | <@Reiver> | Oh, he does it /well/. |
| 09:53 | <@Reiver> | He takes what's in the book and builds off it. |
| 09:53 | <@Reiver> | But the slides are, um, yes. I kind of need that book. ;) |
| 09:58 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Well, you might want to have a look at Thinking In Java too - there's free downloads of previous editions of th ebook at http://mindview.net/Books/TIJ/DownloadSites It's pretty good, has exercises and solutions in it. Probably isn't good for the first-time coder, but it's good for getting a handle on java |
| 10:01 | | * Reiver nodnods. |
| 10:02 | | * Reiver mostly needs to work out how to get eclipse working, or failing that, find $random_code_writing_program. |
| 10:02 | <@Reiver> | ALthough eclipse seems kinda nice... |
| 10:02 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | my $random_code_writing_program = "/usr/bin/emacs"; # naturally ;) |
| 10:03 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Hm |
| 10:03 | <@Reiver> | Oh, eclipse is running. |
| 10:03 | <@Reiver> | On the windows box. ¬¬ |
| 10:03 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Anyway, did you check whether you had the universe and multiverse repositories enabled on kubuntu? |
| 10:03 | <@Reiver> | No, because I forgot how and then got tired. >.< |
| 10:04 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-775cf32093c1bb05fef1 e24465c9be753d760275 has de^H^Hinstructions. |
| 10:06 | <@Reiver> | has de--? |
| 10:06 | | * Reiver curiouses, as he can't guess that one. |
| 10:06 | <@Reiver> | :p |
| 10:06 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | destructions ;) |
| 10:08 | <@Reiver> | Hehehe! |
| 10:08 | | * Reiver patpat. |
| 10:08 | <@Reiver> | Thankye. |
| 10:09 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Once you've got that enabled, you might be able to install eclipse straight off, or you might need to install a Java SDK first and then install it |
| 10:10 | | * Reiver nods. |
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| 10:32 | | * Mahal has a feeling the Java SDK is needed first. |
| 10:33 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | Quite likely. I'd hope that apt would fetch in automagically during dependency resolution, but I'm a gentoo user so I'm used to things wworking a bit differently |
| 10:37 | | * Mahal is used to Redhat. |
| 10:37 | < Mahal> | FC2 did dependencies really badly |
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| 13:57 | | * TheWatcher[wr0k] ponders lightwave plugins, hrms |
| 14:02 | < TheWatcher[wr0k]> | I'm vaguely tempted to try writing a radial geometry deformation plugin to make working on [CLASSIFIED] faster, but I really do wonder whether it'd wor out faster than just hand-building it in the end... |
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| 14:06 | <@Reiver> | ... |
| 14:06 | <@Reiver> | Good luck, TW. |
| 14:06 | <@Reiver> | With both the d00m, and the [CLASSIFIED]. |
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| --- Log closed Fri Jul 28 00:00:46 2006 |