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| 16:00 | | * gnolam grumbles at people who have to do things over the phone rather than email. |
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| 18:58 | <@TheWatcher> | gnolam: amen to that |
| 18:58 | <@TheWatcher> | Irritates the crap out of me that one; takes as long or longer, interrupts, and there's no solid record after |
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| 20:37 | < Desktop-Caboose> | G'day eh |
| 20:39 | <@ErikMesoy> | Hello |
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| 20:48 | < Desktop-Caboose> | I'm going to be starting an adventure learning Java (so that I can start developing Android apps). VirusJTG suggested I join this room for assistance (when needed). |
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| 21:00 | < VirusJTG> | there are many skilled coders, code poets, and code monkies here |
| 21:05 | <@RchrdB> | MOST ARE EVIL |
| 21:05 | <@Alek> | and some wannabes. |
| 21:06 | <@Alek> | RB, isn't that kinda the fault of the job? |
| 21:06 | <@RchrdB> | I think of it as more of a perk. |
| 21:06 | < Desktop-Caboose> | I'd say it's a perk for sure |
| 21:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | Desktop-Caboose: welcome, also, I am so sorry |
| 21:17 | < Desktop-Caboose> | hey TF, heh thanks |
| 21:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | I would say "learn Clojure instead and spare yourself at least one source of pain", but clojure-on-android is still super messy :/ |
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| 21:35 | <@Azash> | 22:05 <@Alek> and some wannabes. < Isn't maintaining the mental image that you are one beneficial? :P |
| 21:40 | <@RchrdB> | No, that's called having impostor syndrome. |
| 21:41 | <@RchrdB> | By all means keep learning but don't make yourself depressed. |
| 21:42 | < Desktop-Caboose> | I've been hunting through google for some good resources, is there anything that people would suggest to help one learn Java? |
| 21:45 | <@TheWatcher> | Tequila |
| 21:45 | < Desktop-Caboose> | Never liked the stuff |
| 21:45 | < Desktop-Caboose> | ;) |
| 21:45 | < Desktop-Caboose> | I'm more of a Rum guy myself |
| 21:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, first off, I don't know; do you have any programming experience? |
| 21:46 | <@RchrdB> | I don't know a good answer to your question. All the Java I've picked up was from university courses and skimming the references. |
| 21:47 | <@RchrdB> | Offhand I would cautiously recommend checking to see if there are any O'Reilly books that teach Java from scratch which are targeted at Java 8, since O'Reilly tend to usually have decent editing. |
| 21:49 | < Desktop-Caboose> | TheWatcher, I've dabbled in vb.net but other than that, I'm a beginner. |
| 21:49 | < Desktop-Caboose> | RchrdB, ok. I'll have a look |
| 21:50 | <@RchrdB> | Also there exist Sun's own Java tutorials which I think are not heinously bad. |
| 21:50 | <@RchrdB> | Oracle's, even. http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ |
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| 21:51 | | * Desktop-Caboose nods |
| 21:51 | < Desktop-Caboose> | thanks |
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| 22:22 | <@Azash> | RchrdB: Oh, that's what I meant |
| 22:23 | <@Azash> | The attitude of "I can always learn more" |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | RchrdB: Those tutorials do date from the Sun era |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | You can tell because sometimes things are *literally* named things like bigHonkingMethodName |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | And yeah, The Java Tutorial is quite good |
| 22:27 | <&McMartin> | It is how I learned the basics lo these many years ago |
| 22:28 | <@ErikMesoy> | ah, the bigHonkingMethodName |
| 22:28 | <@ErikMesoy> | at least it was a methodWithQuiteClearPurpose |
| 22:43 | <&McMartin> | oh god |
| 22:43 | <&McMartin> | http://store.steampowered.com/app/290260/ |
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| 23:36 | <@Alek> | well, honestly speaking, until I can get work (or the equivalent) coding I can only consider myself a wannabe. |
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