code logs -> 2008 -> Fri, 08 Feb 2008< code.20080207.log - code.20080209.log >
--- Log opened Fri Feb 08 00:00:12 2008
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01:09
<@McMartin>
Hmm. EntityReifer is basically just a slightly specialized Adapter.
01:11
<@ToxicFrog>
EntityReifer?
01:13
<@McMartin>
Er. ElementReifier. See last night's sleep-deprived posting, in which I noted defining a class with name no doubt added 10 years to my sentence in Purgatory.
01:13 * McMartin is writing a Java API for processing the iFiction format sensibly.
01:15
<@ToxicFrog>
I don't know, I prefer Wissenschaft to Herauszufindenschaft, as a word.
01:15
<@McMartin>
Both are inferior to ZIENCE.
02:00
<@ToxicFrog>
<doub> so why did you wrote -4 as the settable argument ?
02:00
<@ToxicFrog>
<BadHAL> no idea, I have been trying different values
02:00
<@ToxicFrog>
Why
02:00
<@McMartin>
... context?
02:00
<@ToxicFrog>
This guy is having trouble with his C->Lua interface.
02:00
<@ToxicFrog>
Caused by him not knowing what the hell he's doing.
02:01
<@ToxicFrog>
But really, that shouldn't need context.
02:02
<@McMartin>
"As the settable argument" is the part I don't get
02:03
<@ToxicFrog>
set-table
02:04
<@ToxicFrog>
But what it boils down to is "why did you use X as the argument to foo" "I don't know, I'm just trying random values until it works"
02:06 * ToxicFrog weeps
02:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Hmm. "Reifer" looks like a noun.
02:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Maybe "Reificator"?
02:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Or "Reifier"
02:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Oh, wait
02:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Ok, I need food.
02:10
<@McMartin>
(omg Reifier Madness!)
02:11
<@McMartin>
And yeah, I was reading "settable" as "capable of being set", and an undocumented integer parameter *should* be set randomly when experimenting.
02:11
<@McMartin>
However, indices are traditionally positive. =P
02:12
<@Derakon>
This one's super-undocumented that way. :)
02:12
<@ToxicFrog>
Derakon: ?
02:12
<@ToxicFrog>
McMartin: the lua_* API lets you use either positive indexes to count from the bottom up, and negative from the top down.
02:12
<@Derakon>
Don't mind me.
02:12
<@ToxicFrog>
So index -4 is four elements down from the current top of the stack.
02:17 * McMartin types the fateful line of doom into his UQM source
02:18
<@McMartin>
-typedef DWORD RESOURCE;
02:18
<@McMartin>
+typedef const char *RESOURCE;
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03:00
<@Vornicus>
That's pretty damn doomtacular.
03:06
<@Reiver>
doom doom doom doomy doom doom?
03:08
< C_tiger>
dundundun.
03:09
<@Vornicus>
Reiver:
03:09
<@Vornicus>
[Thu 21:17:58] McMartin -typedef DWORD RESOURCE;
03:09
<@Vornicus>
[Thu 21:18:04] McMartin +typedef const char *RESOURCE;
03:09
<@Reiver>
...what did you do
03:10
<@Vornicus>
He has rejiggered the entire resource system for UQM, so he can actually use pointers.
03:14
<@McMartin>
And so that we can have a reasonable resource index.
03:15
<@McMartin>
That looks to a modder like "large image for Chmmr", not, say, "0x3008d02L" with index 0x00e0007 selected.
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03:18
<@Vornicus>
heh
03:24
<@McMartin>
As for what I'm doing in terms of "commands I issue", I've been writing Python scripts to overhaul most of the content organization and generating enormous .h files.
03:25
<@McMartin>
Or HTML files! http://www.stanford.edu/~mcmartin/misc/uqm_defines.html
03:25
<@McMartin>
Note for added fun that the values in the second column are *not unique*.
03:25
<@Derakon>
Holy crap.
03:26
<@McMartin>
So, I designed the "Resource Name" column, and this wil be the step where I remove the old Resource Numbers.
03:26
<@McMartin>
At the moment, it's using both.
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19:38
< ToxicFrog`>
Goddamnit,
19:38
< ToxicFrog`>
I've lost my other xchat window
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19:38
<@jerith>
:-(
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21:05 * UndeadAnno headdesks.
21:06
<@UndeadAnno>
How do these people pass semesters with such ease?
21:06
<@UndeadAnno>
This guy has learned next to nothing in the 1.5 year we had DigiTech.
21:06
<@UndeadAnno>
And now he wastes my time.
21:19
<@ToxicFrog>
They pass by mooching off people like you.
21:19
<@ToxicFrog>
Send him spiders.
21:21
<@UndeadAnno>
What I don't understand is how some people can make it a pleasure to teach them stuff, while others just grate at nerves whenever they open their mouths.
21:22
<@ToxicFrog>
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots"
21:22
<@UndeadAnno>
I see.
21:24
<@ToxicFrog>
Some people actually want to learn. Some just want a passing grade however.
21:26
<@UndeadAnno>
I don't know about that. The other day, I was shanghai'd into teaching a few peeps how to solve IntCalc problems. They're all of the "I just want to scrape a pass" sort, yet they didn't piss me off... Maybe this is because they listened to what I had to say?
21:26
<@UndeadAnno>
The two people I have the worst encounters with don't listen.
21:27
<@UndeadAnno>
One just fails at functional literacy. The other seems to egotistic to perceive merit in another's words.
21:30
<@UndeadAnno>
Also, I find it uncanny how these bastards seem to want to understand the current material, yet it didn't occur to them that they should perhaps understand the basics first. The latter bloke doesn't understand how a JK flip-flop works, at all, yet he wants to make a synchronous counter using them, and he fails to heed me when I say that he should look into them.
21:31 * UndeadAnno blarghs, goes find some food.
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--- Log closed Sat Feb 09 00:00:19 2008
code logs -> 2008 -> Fri, 08 Feb 2008< code.20080207.log - code.20080209.log >